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Might i recommend to you all the football weekly podcasts from the guardian and whilst the world cup is on the football daily podcasts. Hosted by the fantastic James Richardson of Gazzetta fame and actually with journalists talking properly about football and giving facts and figures you didn't know.

Originally Posted by BryanRobson'sLiver

Might i recommend to you all the football weekly podcasts from the guardian and whilst the world cup is on the football daily podcasts. Hosted by the fantastic James Richardson of Gazzetta fame and actually with journalists talking properly about football and giving facts and figures you didn't know.

it's not bad but the most knowledgeable ones on there still have to wade through some of the interminable banter that passes for wit on these things. richardson is fine but some of the others are awful. the bbc's world footy phone-in is probably the highest standard of comment around but there's some embarrassingly awful banter on there as well.

Originally Posted by borsuk

it's not bad but the most knowledgeable ones on there still have to wade through some of the interminable banter that passes for wit on these things. richardson is fine but some of the others are awful. the bbc's world footy phone-in is probably the highest standard of comment around but there's some embarrassingly awful banter on there as well.

I remember listening to that and a bloke called up and asked

"Why does Roma's Mancini insist his name should be pronounced ' man-see-ni' rather than the Italian 'man-chee-ni'?"

he was answered

"Because he is Brazilian and the Brazilians pronounce it 'man-see-ni'."

The bloke then said

"I know that but as I've always said when in Rome do as the Romans do"

and hung up.

Well I laughed.

Originally Posted by BryanRobson'sLiver

Might i recommend to you all the football weekly podcasts from the guardian and whilst the world cup is on the football daily podcasts. Hosted by the fantastic James Richardson of Gazzetta fame and actually with journalists talking properly about football and giving facts and figures you didn't know.

i would also recommend these, apart from when that post-euro 96, JCL, gooner @#%&! barney ronay is on. he is the cliched middle-class arsenal fan.

youre ALL taking this far too seriously...its all a load of old %@#$&!s anyway.....

if the pundits are shit, use the time theyre on (pre-match/half-time) to get a beer from the fridge....

just put your feet up, stick it on mute.... and enjoy the football....

Originally Posted by Jack Duckworth

i would also recommend these, apart from when that post-euro 96, JCL, gooner @#%&! barney ronay is on. he is the cliched middle-class arsenal fan.

Barnay Ronay is 254 times better than french football "expert" and ABU Paul Doyle.

Originally Posted by BryanRobson'sLiver

Barnay Ronay is 254 times better than french football "expert" and ABU Paul Doyle.

yep, they're both @#%&!s though, tbh.

best line up is: glendenning, ashdown and honigstein

Originally Posted by Jack Duckworth

yep, they're both @#%&!s though, tbh.

best line up is: glendenning, ashdown and honigstein

And Fernando Duarte.

Originally Posted by denis lawless

youre ALL taking this far too seriously...its all a load of old %@#$&!s anyway.....

if the pundits are shit, use the time theyre on (pre-match/half-time) to get a beer from the fridge....

just put your feet up, stick it on mute.... and enjoy the football....

Exactly. You're watching TV so you can view the £#%&!ing match and make your own judgements. Who gives a flying £#%&! what a load of #@&%!s say? i don't pay any attention to anyone speaking during a match and I certainly wouldn't listen to anyone talking before, midway through or after a match. Likewise why do people talk about football performances on here? It's very rare anyone actually provides insight and it's just a load of people either stating the obvious or talking shit and then arguing.

Seedorf's good. He looks stoned all the time and as if he's about to start giggling everytime he speaks but he adds something useful which is more than his colleagues.
Hansen seems bored by the whole thing, Dixon seems to have wandered in by mistake and the ITV shower are appaling.
I dont usually watch the 'punditry' tbh...it comes on at smoking time so I switch to R5 at HT and they're pretty good, especially and surprsingly Robbie Savage.

Originally Posted by suedeshoes

Seedorf's good. He looks stoned all the time and as if he's about to start giggling everytime he speaks but he adds something useful which is more than his colleagues.
Hansen seems bored by the whole thing, Dixon seems to have wandered in by mistake and the ITV shower are appaling.
I dont usually watch the 'punditry' tbh...it comes on at smoking time so I switch to R5 at HT and they're pretty good, especially and surprsingly Robbie Savage.

I was about to say the very same, I like him, looks like he's been spending the last couple of weeks getting stoned in some Amsterdam coffee shop.

its typical English ignorance when it comes to the tournaments really. Noone else matters.

Cant wait to hear what they've got to say about todays Honduras v Chile game.

Lots of talk about Wigan's boys and not a lot else I should imagine.

Originally Posted by Pop

As big a bunch of anti Utd #@&%!s they are Giles, Dunphy and Bill O Herlihy (and Souness) do themselves proud on RTE. Rarely does post match analysis end without at least one good bitchy row breaking out. I'll be amazed if Souness doesn't attack Eamon Dunphy live on air some day.

Bill meanwhile is fantastic in his role of lighting the blue touch paper and scarpering once the confrontations start.

Very true. At least they show a bit of passion and don't just trot out the same ole cliches.

We get the English coverage over here as well and I think it speaks volumes that no matter what station people watch the match on, everyone I know switches over to RTE for the punditry at half and full-time. Proof that people want to say passion, no matter how misguided sometimes, rather than platitudes and cliches.

Even Souness who's probably the best and most honest of the pundits that appear on UK tv seems to up his forthrighness on Irish tv because he's given licence to do so. In fact, I'd argue that it's his experience on RTE that has helped make him the best pundit on Sky.

Originally Posted by denis lawless

youre ALL taking this far too seriously...its all a load of old %@#$&!s anyway.....

if the pundits are shit, use the time theyre on (pre-match/half-time) to get a beer from the fridge....

just put your feet up, stick it on mute.... and enjoy the football....

Well that's fine Denis but can we save the fees we pay them too please? Plus the expenses accounts and hotels.

Originally Posted by denis lawless

youre ALL taking this far too seriously...its all a load of old %@#$&!s anyway.....

if the pundits are shit, use the time theyre on (pre-match/half-time) to get a beer from the fridge....

just put your feet up, stick it on mute.... and enjoy the football....

I would have thought you of all people denis would get irate about taxpayers money being given to useless £#%&!ers like Shearer saying 'we don't know anything about these teams'

Tbf to Seedorf, Davids and Vieira, from a football knowledge pov, they are worth listening to, they just have no screen presence and are boring to watch and listen to. Adebayor is the same.

Originally Posted by dunk

Tbf to Seedorf, Davids and Vieira, from a football knowledge pov, they are worth listening to, they just have no screen presence and are boring to watch and listen to. Adebayor is the same.

Racist.

Originally Posted by dunk

Tbf to Seedorf, Davids and Vieira, from a football knowledge pov, they are worth listening to, they just have no screen presence and are boring to watch and listen to. Adebayor is the same.

You'd think the first two at least would know what they're on about but I dont think they've said anything my goldfish wouldnt have known. And I dont even have a goldfish so MOTWYW.

And I'm dubious about Viera's nous and disagree about Adebayor although tbf I've not understood a word he's said so far.

Originally Posted by PaulParkersPubes

You'd think the first two at least would know what they're on about but I dont think they've said anything my goldfish wouldnt have known. And I dont even have a goldfish so MOTWYW.

And I'm dubious about Viera's nous and disagree about Adebayor although tbf I've not understood a word he's said so far.

Again, you'd think this was a pre-requisite. Not that you'd find this mentioned in any media outlet obv