Joe Lycett vs David Beckham

Originally Posted by NedKelly

Agree with the sentiment, disagree with the execution.

wait... the what? that escalated quickly.

Originally Posted by Rorschach

This is true and not something I'm generally an advocate for.

However, he does have a point about the contradiction between Beckham's historic positioning on the matter [they gays] and his shilling for Qatar [the sonotgays.]

On balance, I do just about favour Joe's stance - though I do believe he is smart enough to have still have given a different £10k to the charities he cited.

Let's attack David Beckham becuase Muslims don't like gays

Originally Posted by Joe Biden

Let's attack David Beckham becuase Muslims don't like gays

Not quite what happened. But you hold your view and we can just disagree.

Originally Posted by Joe Biden

Let's attack David Beckham becuase Muslims don't like gays

Yes let’s. Because he’s the ambassador for a country whose law and culture is medieval.

Originally Posted by Hyman_Roth

Yes let’s. Because he’s the ambassador for a country whose law and culture is medieval.

So no Muslim countries are allowed ambassadors then? You know all Muslims dislike the LBGTQ+ people including the millions in the uk? It's blatant islamaphobia, it's their country their culture let them be. The guy would never dream of saying anything to a Muslim to he attacks Beckham. Does he allow Muslims to buy tickets to his show.... Bit of a hypocrite if he does.

Originally Posted by Hyman_Roth

Yes let’s. Because he’s the ambassador for a country whose law and culture is medieval.

This country mixes, deals and trades with loads of countries who are questionable. Questionable itself truth be known. Cheap shots from a cheap so called comedian who Becks has probably never heard of. £#%&! off

Originally Posted by Joe Biden

So no Muslim countries are allowed ambassadors then? .

I’m sure they can - Guess theirs is just a tough gig.

Homosexuality is against the law in Qatar punishable by 7 years in prison or even the death penalty.

That’s what Beckham is, I would argue, directly promoting.

It's a close one but I think beckham has won this particular battle

Originally Posted by Hyman_Roth

I’m sure they can - Guess theirs is just a tough gig.

Homosexuality is against the law in Qatar punishable by 7 years in prison or even the death penalty.

That’s what Beckham is, I would argue, directly promoting.

No I don't think he is.

Originally Posted by Joe Biden

It's blatant islamaphobia, it's their country their culture let them be.

yeah, but... no.

Originally Posted by jem

yeah, but... no.

Well at least have the balls to attack Muslims directly instead of doing it a snide way through David Beckham.

Originally Posted by Joe Biden

Well at least have the balls to attack Muslims directly instead of doing it a snide way through David Beckham.

Why would he attack the religion of peace?

Originally Posted by Joe Biden

The rainbow people are too much these days. We get it you're gay, but do you have to ram in down everybodys throat 24/7.

~2% of the population, constantly making noise, trying to force their agenda to everyone at every opportunity.

Never heard of the guy, but comes across as a grandstanding, clout-chasing #@&%!.

He’s working as an ambassador for the same Qatari administration that creates/upholds the law around homosexuality that everyone’s going on about. He isn’t just covering the wc for the bbc.

I guess it’s implicitly acknowledged that it was a controversial role - hence being paid £150m. All that’s happening is beckham is being criticised for taking on a pr role for a bunch of nasty @#%&!s by a low ranking comedian.

I think it’s right for him to be criticised but I’m not sure I’d give too much of a £#%&! for £150m.

Their country, their culture….ok, but you don’t have to endorse it/support it/buy into it etc.

Happy to promote inclusivity in the PL and wear rainbow armbands, but we’ll ignore all that when we want to watch our football in a country that directly opposes it.

If you want to go, fine. If you want to take the money, fine, but don’t be surprised when people call into question your morals.

BBC can £#%&! off too. Full of snide. Still there, still covering it. Sat in their studio in their stadium in their country. If it bothers you this much, don’t cover it.

Like Hislop simply put to Neville, if you’re really against it, then don’t go.

Originally Posted by TripDownMiseryLane

This country mixes, deals and trades with loads of countries who are questionable. Questionable itself truth be known. Cheap shots from a cheap so called comedian who Becks has probably never heard of. £#%&! off

This.

Europe was gagging for Qatari LNG a couple of months ago too.

Originally Posted by Hyman_Roth

He’s working as an ambassador for the same Qatari administration that creates/upholds the law around homosexuality that everyone’s going on about. He isn’t just covering the wc for the bbc.

I guess it’s implicitly acknowledged that it was a controversial role - hence being paid £150m. All that’s happening is beckham is being criticised for taking on a pr role for a bunch of nasty @#%&!s by a low ranking comedian.

I think it’s right for him to be criticised but I’m not sure I’d give too much of a £#%&! for £150m.

This.

Mad how anyone can think otherwise frankly.

Maybe Qatar has some positive things going for it as well. Beckham is being paid to promote that side of things. I've not seen anything from Beckham yet where he's promoting killing gays.

Originally Posted by Joe Biden

Maybe Qatar has some positive things going for it as well. Beckham is being paid to promote that side of things. I've not seen anything from Beckham yet where he's promoting killing gays.

I’m sure there are plenty of good things to experience. Maybe the KKK put a hell of a buffet on too. I’d like to think the ‘gay’ stance would be a deal breaker though.

He’s not promoting killing gays. He’s happy to take money from a country that does. It isn’t complicated and doesn’t require any disingenuous reductionism.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

I’m sure there are plenty of good things to experience. Maybe the KKK put a hell of a buffet on too. I’d like to think the ‘gay’ stance would be a deal breaker though.

He’s not promoting killing gays. He’s happy to take money from a country that does. It isn’t complicated and doesn’t require any disingenuous reductionism.

They don't actually kill gays though do they? Not a single instance in history of a gay person being executed in Qatar.