Who else has forgiven Paul Ince?

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

Disagree.

Fair play pal. Don't let what me and the rest of the football world think put you off your stride.

Ask yourself this though, which team is picking Ince over Keane when they're at their pomp? Different players of course, and if you can pick both maybe you do that, but if it's one or the other we both know the answer.

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

As a player, was as good as Keane IMO.



He still did what he did though...

Not a chance Ince was as good as Keane, ffs.

At his pomp, in the very early 2000s, Keane was arguably the best central midfielder anywhere in Europe. The definition of world class.

Ince was very good, but never got anywhere near that level.

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

As a player, was as good as Keane IMO.



He still did what he did though...

Might add this to the desktop folder of whips most stupid posts.

Ince was a good player there’s nqat but he couldn’t lace Keane’s boots. His overall career was mediocre at best and he was a #@&%! to boot. I was on holiday in Tenerife when Benn was training and they were both in the hotel we was staying at. I was only about 12/13 and I went over to try and speak to him and he told his (Benn’s) entourage to “keep the £#%&!ing kids away”.

Originally Posted by believe

Might add this to the desktop folder of whips most stupid posts.

Ince was a good player there’s nqat but he couldn’t lace Keane’s boots. His overall career was mediocre at best and he was a #@&%! to boot. I was on holiday in Tenerife when Benn was training and they were both in the hotel we was staying at. I was only about 12/13 and I went over to try and speak to him and he told his (Benn’s) entourage to “keep the £#%&!ing kids away”.

is that next to your "top 10 diet hacks" folder?

Originally Posted by Gypsum Fantastic

Fair play pal. Don't let what me and the rest of the football world think put you off your stride.

Ask yourself this though, which team is picking Ince over Keane when they're at their pomp? Different players of course, and if you can pick both maybe you do that, but if it's one or the other we both know the answer.

I didn't say he was better though did I, I said he was arguably as good as in my opinion. You've ran with it though, good for you...

Manchester United

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As good as

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Originally Posted by believe

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As good as

didn't realise a players skill was judged by how many trophies he has

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

didn't realise a players skill was judged by how many trophies he has

Next up : p neville vs Harry kane

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

didn't realise a players skill was judged by how many trophies he has

Yeah Keane wasn’t instrumental in most of them trophy wins.

You keep thinking Ince was as good as Keane pal

Originally Posted by est.1878

Next up : p neville vs Harry kane

Tomasz Kuszczak has 3 PL's, 2 league cups, a champions league, a club world cup and 3 charity shields.

Clear of de gea imo

Originally Posted by believe

Yeah Keane wasn’t instrumental in most of them trophy wins.

You keep thinking Ince was as good as Keane pal

You compared their trophie hauls pal. What has trophies got to do with a players skill level? Nacho has 5 champions league medals compared to Keane's 1, does that make him 5 times better?

I've got no problem with people saying Keane is better than Ince, it's the widely held opinion, but as usual your fosters soaked brain has completely missed the point

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

I didn't say he was better though did I, I said he was arguably as good as in my opinion. You've ran with it though, good for you...

you said it you crank, I'm just picking you up on it. trying to victim blame, shameful.

PS you didn't say arguably, you said he was as good as

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

As a player, was as good as Keane IMO.

I'm saying he's not as good because Keane is better.

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

Tomasz Kuszczak has 3 PL's, 2 league cups, a champions league, a club world cup and 3 charity shields.

Clear of de gea imo




You compared their trophie hauls pal. What has trophies got to do with a players skill level? Nacho has 5 champions league medals compared to Keane's 1, does that make him 5 times better?

I've got no problem with people saying Keane is better than Ince, it's the widely held opinion, but as usual your fosters soaked brain has completely missed the point

Didn’t just choose to miss the individual honours bit? You keep comparing him to Tomas Kuszac and telling me I’ve missed the point

Originally Posted by believe

Didn’t just choose to miss the individual honours bit? You keep comparing him to Tomas Kuszac and telling me I’ve missed the point

oh right, so skill level is now based on individual honours Peter Schmeichel and Gary Neville never won premier league player of the month, the shit bastards


You're all over the place pal, go for a lie down.

Originally Posted by Gypsum Fantastic

you said it you crank, I'm just picking you up on it. trying to victim blame, shameful.

PS you didn't say arguably, you said he was as good as


I'm saying he's not as good because Keane is better.

Right but it is arguable, because it's an opinion. Like yours.

Imagine telling your 10 year old self that in 30 years time we'd be sat on a football forum posting honours listings of players to debate how good they were.

Originally Posted by est.1878

Imagine telling your 10 year old self that in 30 years time we'd be sat on a football forum posting honours listings of players to debate how good they were.

I am my 10 year old self's complete lack of surprise.

Originally Posted by est.1878

Imagine telling your 10 year old self that in 30 years time we'd be sat on a football forum posting honours listings of players to debate how good they were.

Oh so you think Djemba-Djemba was better than Best? Ymms

Originally Posted by thrills_pills_bellyaches

He was class.

Nope. Absolute #@&%!.

Originally Posted by Time For Heroes

Nope. Absolute #@&%!.

Harsh on thrills.

Ince was a great player for United. History and emotion can't wipe that away.

Back on topic, the boy Ince came up in the heart of NF territory dodging bananas and violent racist thugs throughout. He then stabbed those backwards @#%&!s in the back by wearing a United shirt before he'd officially signed. Doesn't get anywhere near enough credit for offering out an entire stand at Selhurst after the kung-£#%&!ick and his crime seems to be over-celebrating a goal against a club and a manager who treated him like shit.

“When I saw everyone running to the touchline and squeezing the Lucozade bottle – knowing Gazza, it was vodka and orange inside – it didn’t really resonate with me’,” Incey says. “I thought, ‘What the £#%&! are they doing?’ and then it just clicked, ‘Yeah, OK, dentist’s chair, I £#%&!ing get it, right, £#%&! it, let’s try and win this £#%&!ing game and stop £#%&!ing about’.”

Originally Posted by suedeshoes

Harsh on thrills.

Ince was a great player for United. History and emotion can't wipe that away.

Being a good or great player wasn't the question though was it? That celebration when I thought we'd blown the league.