OFFICIAL: Sunderland v United thread. (Teams, links + pointless going through the motions)

Originally Posted by borsuk

the dippers are looking at a pretty bleak future imo. no new stadium, far more debt than they can manage, no young players coming through - unless they get taken over by a sugar daddy they're £#%&!ed.

there's no way they'll be able afford to replace gerrard or torres with equivalents if/when they leave. can you name me one young player they have coming through? one? other than ngog there's nobody, not even one young player on the fringes of the first team. their first 11 is capable of playing at a decent level but as soon as you go beyond than it's a catastrophe. even their first 11 is littered with players who shouldn't be anywhere near a side challenging for top honours - that greek lad, maxi rodriguez, lucas etc.

what their deluded fans don't seem to grasp is that 6th or 7th place isn't some aberration but what they've got on merit on the basis of the quality of players they have. over the next few years spurs and city, probably everton and maybe villa will be consistently finishing above them because they, quite simply, have better players and/or better management. and without somebody bankrolling them, without a new stadium and without a decent youth set up they're just not going to be able to compete.

it's all so sad

And our future is so rosy at the moment

I think they'll be bought by a Sugar Daddy

Originally Posted by borsuk

the dippers are looking at a pretty bleak future imo. , far more debt than they can manage

lolzer at the irony tbh.

Originally Posted by Skag Trendy

lolzer at the irony tbh.

Borsuk is right here. The Glazers will be a bad memory *long* before THEY win the league again. Hth is of assistance

Originally Posted by borsuk

a new manager won't help them much imo. for all his stupidity in the media and general buffoonery, benitez is a solid coach and tactician with a good record overall; they're not in 6th because of his failings in that department, they're where they should be on merit.

I disagree with that slightly, though admittedly only because a scouse mate of mine who knows his football is constantly incensed with Benitez playing players out of position, making bizarre substitutions, picking daft formations, etc. He often talks of the way he has taken on some decent talents (Keane, Aquilani, Riera), used them wrongly, 'ruined' them and £#%&!ed them off sharpish, and the way Gerrard has regressed in the past few years.

That said, I agree that a new manager would only be able to make them 'solid', and maybe take them to 6th instead of 7th.

If they were to get a shedload of money and Mourinho, however....

Despite the opposition of some of our fans here and elsewhere, that is maybe *the* clinching reason for getting Jose in........

So that the Vermin or the Bitters don't

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Borsuk is right here. The Glazers will be a bad memory *long* before THEY win the league again. Hth is of assistance

Doubtfull, Glazers going nowhere fast tbh.

Originally Posted by Skag Trendy

Doubtfull, Glazers going nowhere fast tbh.

So when do you think the Scousers will next win the title, then??