Van der Sar is dreadful at saving freekicks

Originally Posted by Grimson

His save against Lille from a free kick was the best save by any keeper last season.

how many free kicks has he let in this season alone....

its not only us that players take free kicks against.

he has let in about 4 or 5 this season which imo is too many.

Nobody would have saved that freekick.

Originally Posted by violater™

how many free kicks has he let in this season alone....

its not only us that players take free kicks against.

he has let in about 4 or 5 this season which imo is too many.

I certainly remember the Leighton Baines one, which was not saveable by VDS, Schmeichel, Gordon Banks or anyone else you care to name.

The first Nakamura one was very good as well.

That makes three, can't recall any others.

Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop

Nobody would have saved that freekick.

just like every freekick he lets in....

shots from long distance has always troubled vds...

Originally Posted by violater™

just like every freekick he lets in....

What's the problem then?

Lets give this argument balance:

Tell me a free kick VDS has let in that he SHOULD have stopped?*


And im not saying you wont be able to come uo with one....


* - sorry but tonights is NEVER a cast iron example. Not even close.

he left a big gap

except a player on the post.

which we should employ.

Originally Posted by Stickman

Lets give this argument balance:

Tell me a free kick VDS has let in that he SHOULD have stopped?*


And im not saying you wont be able to come uo with one....


* - sorry but tonights is NEVER a cast iron example. Not even close.

he opens up the whole goal for every freekick...

you never trust your wall that much if thats his "excuse"

it has failed him more than five times in two seasons

Originally Posted by jem

except a player on the post.

which we should employ.

Ah but that only works if the opposition doesn't notice.

Otherwise there's no offside and they crowd the six-yard box, which won't do.

Vio, EVERY keeper positions himself just as VDS does. He's not doing anything revolutionary. You know what happens when you don't trust your wall? You get beat to the side you're supposed to be covering, i.e. Schemichel in Barcelona 99, which is a far easier shot for the shooter (no wall to go over after all).

crowd the box. we had four defenders in tonight who can all head the ball.

if nothing else, vds should stand a bit nearer the middle of the goal.

was from a £#%&!ing dodgy free kick as well.

Originally Posted by jem

if nothing else, vds should stand a bit nearer the middle of the goal.

exactly.

He does seem to struggle to get airborne when it's necessary. Perhaps a set of casters and a small ramp.

Originally Posted by violater™

exactly.

You're both wrong.

You might as well saunter into a operating room and advise the surgeons.*

But leave the goalkeeping to goalkeepers.



*apologies if either of you are actually surgeons.

sir jerry pun again.



vds clearly did something wrong. that kick was not unsaveable. I'd rather take my chances with the type of cross we cleared all day than with a direct free kick that was a carbon copy of the one nakamura scored at old trafford, thanks.

man on the £#%&!ing post!

Originally Posted by jem

I'd rather take my chances with the type of cross we cleared all day than with a direct free kick that was a carbon copy of the one nakamura scored at old trafford, thanks.

man on the £#%&!ing post!

He wouldn't have crossed. He still would have shot

No team, ever, would defend any free kick in shooting position with opposition players crowding the six yard box. You watch: sometimes teams do send a player back to the post, but when the opposition notices and floods the box, he comes trotting out again. It's suicide otherwise. Despite today and all the other free kick goals against, the majority still miss.

There was only ever one place that free-kick was going. I agree with Jem - given that it was a replica of the one at Old Trafford - I think VDS should have been a bit wiser to it and got nearer.

Good to see you here S/Side.

can't get a ball hit in the corner from that distance, what is the point of being freakishly tall?