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Why does nobody ever point out the Jean Tigana did a pretty devent job at Fulham when talking about black managers?
Also Tony Adams managed Wycombe Wanderers in league 2 before pompy (where he was number 2 to 'Arry and got the job on the back of caretaking form) but then he did get them relegated there. |
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Several established black/mixed players go in at non-league. Phil Babb and Marcus Gayle in the same league last year, Conf South. |
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Alongside Tigana you also have Gullit, who got the Chelsea job which is one of the biggest in the country. He's also had the Newcastle job. I'm genuinely struggling to think of many English black former players of that calibre who would be interested tbh, and once you move away from the top calibre you're quickly amongst the Clark Carlisles of this world. Maybe Hasselbank gets to start in a bigger job if he's white, maybe not. But Poyet began at Brighton iirc. & if you look at the starting points of the current PL managers they include Watford, Swansea, Sheff Utd, Reading, Carlisle, Bournemouth, Blackpool... some of those clubs feature more than once, and there are a string of similar and lesser clubs on these manager's records as their 2nd or 3rd club including the likes of Huddersfield, Notts County & Gillingham... http://www.managerstats.co.uk/premier-league/ |
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Hasselbaink went for the Leeds job and I suspect others. Burton was the best he could do. And he surely had as deep an affinity with his clubs as Pearce had with Man City? Same with Ince, who took the bottom club in the football league. Given his reputation as a captain and midfield inspiration, perhaps Ince is the most damming evidence of a problem. He's no more of a moron than Pearce, Shearer etc. |
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there's an element of defending a position I don't necessarily hold in this cus Ince could surely be an inspiring manager with a bit of time invested in him, and there's no question that there's a racism/prejudice handicap that black managers face on the inside of football clubs - or that that's a lot to do with the people bankrolling them, and the supporters too for that matter. But at the same time are there really that many top class black candidates amongst former pros? |
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Ince did get more jobs, at MK Dons and Blackpool. He appears a bit of a @#%&!, but of course Pearce is the guy who racially abused him. England isn't the only country where this is an issue, tbf. Brazil's paucity of black managers over the years is far more startling. |
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As we're talking about people not being given jobs surely it's fair to assume that the same process has taken place or similar and whoever's calling the shots in each scenario hasn't been suitably impressed? Whether that's because of an inability to see past their colour it's hard to say*. Just as it's hard top quantify the effect of feeling they have to be a bit better than their [white] peers might have in wearing down newbie black managers. I don't know basically. *despite the obvious perception that that's an issue |
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Using the data from the previous census, 2.2% of the population is black. So for 92 league clubs, a 'fair' representation would be 2 black managers across the 4 divisions.
Assuming a manager starts at 35-40, we need to look at the quantity of black players around 20 years ago (certainly fewer than now), then find out if they go on to take their badges and if they get actively involved in coaching at any level before we can start to say the KKK are running the league. P.S. Tigana was sacked at Fulham, wasn't he? Al Fayed then tried to sue him for over-paying for players. P.P.S. I must have missed the bit when Barnes was asking why there's so few professional players* in the UK from Indian sub-continent heritage? (* had to google that, didn't even know of one tbh). |
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also villa are not the only club who have been taken over and have a new culture at the top, thus maybe affecting a reset on any progress made on the jobs for the boys ladder regards racism. how pearce has gone as far as he has is a mystery regardless of him racially abusing ince in 1994. remember fergie back then telling ince to treat it the same way he dealt with people calling him a scottish bastard, which is interesting cus isn't that pretty much the same kind of matter-of-fact playing down of the problem that John Barnes adopted in the suarez/vermin case |
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