As Ferguson has categorically ruled out a Heinze move to the vermin

What will the next subject be that the chancers on this forum seize upon to call Ferguson all the names that their own relatives whispered in their ears while they were £#%&!ing them up the arse?

it was Gill actually but I know what you mean

but I'd be quite happy if he went there and we got £7million for him

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

What will the next subject be that the chancers on this forum seize upon to call Ferguson all the names that their own relatives whispered in their ears while they were £#%&!ing them up the arse?

Too right - ungrateful £#%&!ers.

You £#%&!ers need to wake up - why the £#%&! should we suck fergie/gill/glazers #@&%! just because they are up-holding a long standing tradition of not giving those £#%&!ing scouse scum bags our players?

[SIZE="4"]It's the £#%&!ing least they can do!

Originally Posted by Lou_Macari_Chippy

You £#%&!ers need to wake up - why the £#%&! should we suck fergie/gill/glazers #@&%! just because they are up-holding a long standing tradition of not giving those £#%&!ing scouse scum bags our players?

[SIZE="4"]It's the £#%&!ing least they can do!

Yeah whatever. If you (not necessarily you personally) choose to use hyped up improbabilities based on footballer's whims, media shite and agent speak in order to attack a person, yet make no effort to redress the balance when bullshit scenario fails to materialise, then you are the one who ought to wake up and realise that no-one gives a £#%&! about your anti-Ferguson (in this particular case) agenda.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

then you are the one who ought to wake up and realise that no-one gives a £#%&! about your anti-Ferguson (in this particular case) agenda.

Hence the reason you starting a thread about it.

Muffin anyone?

Originally Posted by Pepitas/Queso Del Pollo

Hence the reason you starting a thread about it.

Precisely. Well done. Said agenda being of zero significance being the point, obviously. Course, the forum £#%&!ers constantly calling Ferguson a @#%&! at every opportunity really really upsets me.

I don't need an excuse top call fergie a @#%&!. His U turn on fan ownership is plenty for me. He's a @#%&!.

Originally Posted by BryanRobson'sLiver

I don't need an excuse top call fergie a @#%&!. His U turn on fan ownership is plenty for me. He's a @#%&!.

What U turn is that then?

Cup of tea?

Throb's just stirring, Fergie said Beckham wasn't leaving, he said Veron wasn't, he said he wouldn't sell RVN for £10M, now he says he won't sell Gabby to the scousers and everyone's saying what a top bloke and man of honour he is. If it becomes in Fergie's interest to do a deal with Liverpool, he will. He has shown his principles can be bought. Throb, well done you've started a pointless argument, again. If you don't like your fellow fans, go and support Chelsea.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

What U turn is that then?

Sorry but I refuse to believe that you have that many posts and have not seen the plethora of evidence that has been banded round all united forums about this for the past couple of years

Originally Posted by Spiffy

Throb's just stirring, Fergie said Beckham wasn't leaving, he said Veron wasn't, he said he wouldn't sell RVN for £10M, now he says he won't sell Gabby to the scousers and everyone's saying what a top bloke and man of honour he is. If it becomes in Fergie's interest to do a deal with Liverpool, he will. .

I'm no apologist but it would help to quote decent exaamples to back your position up.

In Fergies interest? or the clubs?

You see, all of the above deals were absolutely right for the club.

Hope that clears that up.

BRL - I'll also take you up on this one. Are you suggesting that Fergie saying that fan ownership was a good thing followed by his tactic support of the Glazer's was a u-turn?

Originally Posted by My Name is Keith

BRL - I'll also take you up on this one. Are you suggesting that Fergie saying that fan ownership was a good thing followed by his tactic support of the Glazer's was a u-turn?

Yes

Originally Posted by Spiffy

Throb's just stirring, Fergie said Beckham wasn't leaving, he said Veron wasn't, he said he wouldn't sell RVN for £10M, now he says he won't sell Gabby to the scousers and everyone's saying what a top bloke and man of honour he is. If it becomes in Fergie's interest to do a deal with Liverpool, he will. He has shown his principles can be bought. Throb, well done you've started a pointless argument, again. If you don't like your fellow fans, go and support Chelsea.

Originally Posted by BryanRobson'sLiver

Sorry but I refuse to believe that you have that many posts and have not seen the plethora of evidence that has been banded round all united forums about this for the past couple of years

He may have responded to questions about Beckham stemming from media reports around the time of the CLq/f 2003 with a curt "£#%&! off you pointless @#%&!s". I hope he did.

Don't ever recall anyone saying Veron bids would not be accepted, certainly not once it had been decided to move a year earkly for Ronaldo.

United actually did hold out quite well over the RvN fee, but it was clear they were fighting a losing battle as the player was acting like a @#%&!. Based on the forum favourite method of calculation - guesswork - he went for £12.3m.

I would say that in the event of an offer of £6.8m from anyone for Heinze it would be in Ferguson's interests to snap their hand off.

I like plenty of my fellow United fans ta, including many of those who I sit around, though some of them should make more effort.

£#%&! off and support Chelsea is one of my favourite ever Ferguson quotes. As it happens, it is also the basis for one of the best football songs you're likely to hear as well.

"...the plethora of evidence banded around forums..." is not really evidence - I presume you refer to the comment laughing off the delusions of grandeur certain people demonstrated following the superb work in helping secure the blocking of the Murdoch bid. If not, then I genuinely have missed another Ferguson pearler by the sounds of it

Originally Posted by BryanRobson'sLiver

Yes

I'd suggest that the 1st scenario is a utopia that probably could never happen at MUFC whereas the other was something that was inevitable.

People keep quoting Fergie's principles as if they know what they are/were. Perhaps fan ownership was not a principle of his but merely something he would like to have seen happen if it could? It couldn't and I personally don't think he could have influenced making it happen as much as people make out.

Consequently, I don't really have a problem with Fergie on this one.

If Liverpool want our cast-offs, let them have them.

Originally Posted by My Name is Keith

I'd suggest that the 1st scenario is a utopia that probably could never happen at MUFC whereas the other was something that was inevitable.

People keep quoting Fergie's principles as if they know what they are/were. Perhaps fan ownership was not a principle of his but merely something he would like to have seen happen if it could? It couldn't and I personally don't think he could have influenced making it happen as much as people make out.

Consequently, I don't really have a problem with Fergie on this one.

One of my many gripes is his verbal backing of IMUSA and then his sniping at the fans wanting a voice after the Glazer takeover. Now that is either a U turn or him saying what is best for him in his job rather than what is best for the club or the team.
Still i should not be surprised, this is a bloke who when GIFTED half the winnings of a horse then sued for his half of the stud rights yet he claims to be a socialist. A man who stands up for the working man unless that working man works for MUFC and is binned off as soon as the Glazers take over as they want to streamline the operations. A man who brands the fans of a breakaway club "attention seekers" whilst promoting his new book.

Originally Posted by BryanRobson'sLiver

One of my many gripes is his verbal backing of IMUSA and then his sniping at the fans wanting a voice after the Glazer takeover. Now that is either a U turn or him saying what is best for him in his job rather than what is best for the club or the team.
Still i should not be surprised, this is a bloke who when GIFTED half the winnings of a horse then sued for his half of the stud rights yet he claims to be a socialist. A man who stands up for the working man unless that working man works for MUFC and is binned off as soon as the Glazers take over as they want to streamline the operations. A man who brands the fans of a breakaway club "attention seekers" whilst promoting his new book.

That's what i thought; it's his mocking of those who "actually thought they could have a say in the running of United after getting the Murdoch bid blocked" that has upset you. (That is not a direct quote, but looks like it doesn't need to be!)

Why do people get all mardy when they are ridiculed publically by way of retaliation?
























I myself am ridiculed regularly

Where I come from it's often referred to as banter, and banter is often the most powerful form of knocking people off their high horses. I think Ferguson used the tactic pretty spectacularly in the scenario in question.

Correct me if I'm wrong btw, but wasn't it an official United publication, and not a Ferguson book at all that he was being quizzed about?