Phil Jones

Originally Posted by dunk

Ah, so completely fabricated then. Right. Cool.

What is?

Originally Posted by dragflick

What is?

The stories about him wanting out from the summer? Barca etc?

Originally Posted by dunk

The stories about him wanting out from the summer? Barca etc?

Yes mate, was nothing in it. Like I said. Trust.

Originally Posted by wiganste

I'm with dunk re: Rojo. He isn't that good

Blind is better than the pair of them...

Dunk's right on this - Rojo is decent but Jones is the better CB. Rojo's main advantage is his left foot and ability to play fullback

Injuries are holding Jones back, he won't step up a level until he can stay fit

Originally Posted by dragflick

Yes mate, was nothing in it. Like I said. Trust.

Fair enough.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

Blind is better than the pair of them...

Smalling's better than all 4 of them...

Originally Posted by dragflick

Smalling's better than all 4 of them...

Smallingbauer should've been first choice CB since '12 really. Dicking him about at RB didn't half hold him up.

Originally Posted by dragflick

Smalling's better than all 4 of them...

There's only three mate ? And yes he is (at centre back)

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

There's only three mate ? And yes he is (at centre back)

Just being silly. And agreed.

Not sure how anyone can paint jones as a majestic footballer. Both his decision making and his first touch can be awful - they often conspire together which leads the bumbling oaf into making rash physical and injury threatening challenges as he desperately tries to recover himself from situations he himself has created.

He can be unbelievably poor - shit even - but can also show glimpses of being decent.

Overall though, I'm struggling to see how anyone can assess him as being anything other than bang average with a brain the size of a pea.

Jones better than Rojo

Classic swollen bonce guff.

Originally Posted by Alan

Jones better than Rojo

Classic swollen bonce guff.

Alan having no idea what he's talking about. Standard.

Jones needs to be moved on simply because his body is made out of quavers.

Bruce/Pallister and Vidic/Stam were consistent partnerships and very rarely injured. That is a vital quality if you plan to build from the back.

Jones is an alright defender but a bit of an gurning, clumsy oaf the way he gets around the pitch. He has the grace of a fully built wardrobe falling down two flights of stairs.

As for Rojo, the #@&%! irritated me immensly on Saturday and that penalty he gave away was waiting to happen. I said at the start of his time here that I felt he was too impetious in the challenge and would cost us in a lot of games. Nothing has changed my mind.

Sell both and slap a huge wad on Kenwrights board room table for Stones.

Mike and Stones are the long future for both club and country. If Stones is out of reach get Laporte in before Barca or Real make their move.

Very harsh on Rojo. I think he's done quite well, and has been in good form recently before that stupid challenge on Saturday.

Don't think it reflects his performances so far. Settled remarkably well last year and at 25 can improve further.

Vidic/Stam?

Originally Posted by jaffo

Vidic/Stam?

Just imagine it though!

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Very harsh on Rojo. I think he's done quite well, and has been in good form recently before that stupid challenge on Saturday.

Don't think it reflects his performances so far. Settled remarkably well last year and at 25 can improve further.

You seem to have overlooked the Sunday mirror reports that he tried to force his way out.

Originally Posted by atticusgrinch

You seem to have overlooked the Sunday mirror reports that he tried to force his way out.

Was unaware, thanks for the tip-off. This changes everything re that @#%&! Rojo.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Was unaware, thanks for the tip-off. This changes everything re that @#%&! Rojo.

Exactly