What if the Glazers hadn't taken over?

Originally Posted by Jack Duckworth

resale value. that's what dictates our transfer policy now.

really?

think we'd get much for young?

Originally Posted by silv

really?

think we'd get much for young?

it's undisputed, fergie has said so.

anyway, young has got more resale value than somebody like berbatov or owen.

Originally Posted by ScholesScoresGoals2

There was and it was Jordan Henderson

Andrea Pirlo was available for free. He's only 31 and one of the main reasons Juventus will win Serie A this season. Value

There were plenty of others too, but we either don't have the money, or they don't have the right agents. Instead, we spend the summer listening to Fergie go on about how there was no one available who was an improvement on Anderson or T-Clev.

Originally Posted by armchair

We'd have had Sneidjer on the bench at least. Oh how I wish we'd got an arab prince desperately trying to move his billions out of his tinpot country rather than some yanks bleeding United out.

I'll see if I can persuade him with a day on the boat.

Originally Posted by The Watcher

Andrea Pirlo was available for free. He's only 31 and one of the main reasons Juventus will win Serie A this season. Value

tbf, i seem to remember him saying that he wanted to stay in italy rather than move abroad.

Originally Posted by believe

£#%&! of Alex

was being sarcastic ffs

Originally Posted by The Watcher

Andrea Pirlo was available for free. He's only 31 and one of the main reasons Juventus will win Serie A this season. Value

There were plenty of others too, but we either don't have the money, or they don't have the right agents. Instead, we spend the summer listening to Fergie go on about how there was no one available who was an improvement on Anderson or T-Clev.

Who have both played less than Scholes. :shakehead:

Even Fletcher has started the same amount of games T-Clev has this season.

All big teams spend big in order to continue to compete.

Because all teams do it nesecitates the requirement for the other teams to do soand it needs to be maintained every year.

The most obvious glaring examples are right in front of our face:

Arsenal have decided on a policy of less investment over a number of years and have got progressivly worse.

Chelsea spent a lot of money to bring them up to scratch, then stopped for a little while and they became less competitive, then spent again and have become more competitive.

citeh have spent consistently and while their improvements haven't always been consistent they have improved.

It isn't £#%&!ing rocket science.


The simple fact is that compared to the teams that we want to compete with we have been spending consistently less over the last few years. We've been lucky because prior to that we have been spending the money and because we've got one of the greatest managers ever, but it can't last and anyone that tries to convince you otherwise is deluded.

I think we'd probably have Carlos in as assistant too. The shape v city was a carlos thing, unfortunately we no longer have the players (or coaching) to play that way.

Originally Posted by Jack Duckworth

tbf, i seem to remember him saying that he wanted to stay in italy rather than move abroad.

I've no idea tbh, he was apparently willing to move to Chelsea as Ancelotti was very keen? Regardless, Fergie's the one who sat there in pre-season telling us no one was available. Pirlo's the first one I could think of and I'm sure there were plenty of others. If the managers brother wasn't stealing a living at United as the chief European scout, we might even be aware of some of them.

Originally Posted by The Watcher

I've no idea tbh, he was apparently willing to move to Chelsea as Ancelotti was very keen? Regardless, Fergie's the one who sat there in pre-season telling us no one was available. Pirlo's the first one I could think of and I'm sure there were plenty of others. If the managers brother wasn't stealing a living at United as the chief European scout, we might even be aware of some of them.

Vidal :shakehead:

Modric, Nasri

Sahin

Originally Posted by armchair

Modric, Nasri

United have a great habit of going after players they have no chance (or intention?) of getting. Very convenient. Maybe Gill & co will spend this summer trying to convince Messi to take a drastic pay cut and join?

theres plenty of options out there, not all of them are going to csot 30m+ either

fergie needs to open his eyes, maybe this season will make him do that.

Originally Posted by The Watcher

United have a great habit of going after players they have no chance (or intention?) of getting. Very convenient. Maybe Gill & co will spend this summer trying to convince Messi to take a drastic pay cut and join?

We could've got Nasri. Fergie thought we were going to sign him. I doubt he believed Modric/Sneijder was ever going to happen but Nasri wasn't way out of our league. Turns out we had 15m and not a penny more so we were easily gazumped.

Originally Posted by The Watcher

All it needed was a boycott of one game while the gimps were trying to take over and the whole sorry business would never have happened.

Yep, a one-match boycott would have had a tremendous impact, but sadly most people just didn't give a flying £#%&! one way or the other.

Originally Posted by Jack Duckworth

anybody who still goes to OT has no right to slag off the glazers. you should have left in 2005. it's your fault they are still here.

says you who never went

Originally Posted by elephantstone

says you who never went

did a game share with sparky didn't he

Originally Posted by elephantstone

says you who never went