Martial is truly special

Originally Posted by RemisMoses

He’s dragged Sane off at ht or early in the 2nd half a few times because he isn’t playing well at the moment. But he always gets a big run of games and he plays himself back into form. He’s not dropped from the squad for weeks dropped from the 11 constantly.
I suppose all those who don’t rate him wouldn’t mind him going to City. He’s disinterested and shit anyway.

Uninterested, possibly.

Yes, he will be "disinterested" in United when he no longer plays for us. Which might not be that far off now.

His cousin has said Jose is a @#%&! or something on Twitter

Originally Posted by armchair

my favourite player. will be sad to see him go.

Basically the same. Him and rashford.

Will be a disgrace to see him flogged so Sanchez can keep his place.

Originally Posted by TheFatGoth

His cousin has said Jose is a @#%&! or something on Twitter

Who hasn't?

He is one.

Originally Posted by TheFatGoth

His cousin has said Jose is a c*** or something on Twitter

Not quite called him a @#%&! tbf

“For Manchester United, Anthony leaving is not an option, even on loan. They rely on him.”

Originally Posted by RemisMoses

Not quite called him a @#%&! tbf

“For Manchester United, Anthony leaving is not an option, even on loan. They rely on him.”

left out the crucial next bit

ploos, e is, ow you say, a maseeeve cont yes?

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

He's brilliant, but he has his faults just like Martial does. But he also has a manager who completely trusts him.

Trust is earnt.

Originally Posted by TheFatGoth

His cousin has said Jose is a @#%&! or something on Twitter

Lots of players thought Fergie was a @#%&!.

People think boss is a @#%&! because they can’t get their own way. Shocker.

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

Trust is earnt.

Scored 3 in 3 only to be shifted to accommodate Sanchez then dropped. How is it earnt?

Originally Posted by dunk

Scored 3 in 3 only to be shifted to accommodate Sanchez then dropped. How is it earnt?

Performance, attitude and character.

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

Performance, attitude and character.

he was dropped, while he was delivering, and then kept out by default to accommodate a new big profile signing.

Sure trust is earned, but it's a two way street. Mourinho seems sometimes to be deliberately laying traps for these poor @#%&!s. We keep hearing how important it is for the players to earn his famous trust, but it all seems rather fragile, no wonder everyone's perpetually on edge. Not a great mood enhancer.

Originally Posted by Lazlo Panaflex

he was dropped, while he was delivering, and then kept out by default to accommodate a new big profile signing.

Clearly the manager has a different opinion.

I think the big question is - is trust earned or earnt?

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

Trust is earnt.

That's not really how it works with young players, tbf. The concept of trust is based on the fact that you know they're going to be frustrating. But you're showing faith that in the longer term it will benefit the player and therefore benefit the club.

Besides, as mentioned Martial was having his best spell since Mourinho took charge before Sanchez arrived. He just doesn't like him.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

That's not really how it works with young players, tbf. The concept of trust is based on the fact that you know they're going to be frustrating. But you're showing faith that in the longer term it will benefit the player and therefore benefit the club.

Besides, as mentioned Martial was having his best spell since Mourinho took charge before Sanchez arrived. He just doesn't like him.

There’s frustrating and there’s frustrating. Rashford’s frustrating decisions and execution is a lot easier to live with than Martial’s attitude and work rate. Mourinho is making decisions based on a lot more than just the 90 minutes we see mate. As dodger said, sort of, trust is earned. On the training pitch, in meetings and away from the pitch as well as on it.

Martial has massive potential, but if he can’t get the drive and application right potential is about as useful as one of your stats.

I don't care anymore. Sell him and the rest of them. Tired of the excuses.

Its like we have to treat every player who is creative so special in this team, he only shows up when he wants. £#%&! him off him Sanchez pogba etc

Originally Posted by utd99

There’s frustrating and there’s frustrating. Rashford’s frustrating decisions and execution is a lot easier to live with than Martial’s attitude and work rate. Mourinho is making decisions based on a lot more than just the 90 minutes we see mate. As dodger said, sort of, trust is earned. On the training pitch, in meetings and away from the pitch as well as on it.

Martial has massive potential, but if he can’t get the drive and application right potential is about as useful as one of your stats.

That's because you don't like Martial. His goal ratio is better than Rashford's but because he looks lethargic it's less tolerable?

I think you have a similar impatience to Mourinho regarding young players iirc. But Martial has a much better goal ratio than Lukaku so bringing productivity into the discussion doesn't really hold up. You and Mou: running about > scoring goals

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

That's because you don't like Martial. His goal ratio is better than Rashford's but because he looks lethargic it's less tolerable?

I think you have a similar impatience to Mourinho regarding young players iirc. But Martial has a much better goal ratio than Lukaku so bringing productivity into the discussion doesn't really hold up. You and Mou: running about > scoring goals

Mourinho likes Lingard more than utders does

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

That's because you don't like Martial. His goal ratio is better than Rashford's but because he looks lethargic it's less tolerable?

I think you have a similar impatience to Mourinho regarding young players iirc. But Martial has a much better goal ratio than Lukaku so bringing productivity into the discussion doesn't really hold up. You and Mou: running about > scoring goals

By “running about”, do you mean supporting the play, making runs behind, hitting the six yard box and forcing the play? If so I wouldn’t say it’s greater than scoring goals, but it’s certainly a necessary component TO scoring goals.

You basically want age to be free pass on performance(s)/effort. I disagree.