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Unread 20-05-2008, 11:02 AM
Why Don?
 
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I always thought that Giggs had just overtaken Hansen this season but apparently Giggs has 10 and Hansen 8.

My memory isn't the best but perhaps Giggs didn't get a medal in 92/93?
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 11:03 AM
antonin jablonsky
 
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FA Premier League - Champion (10): 1992-93, 1993-94, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1998-99, 1999-00, 2000-01, 2002-03, 2006-07, 2007-08
FA Premier League - Runner Up: 1994-95, 1997-98, 2005-06
FA Youth Cup Winner: 1992
FA Cup Winner (4): 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004
FA Cup Runner Up: 1995, 2005, 2007
League Cup Winner (2): 1992, 2006
League Cup Runner Up: 1994, 2003
Community Shield Winner (6): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007
Community Shield Runner Up: 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2004
UEFA Champions League Winner: 1999
UEFA Super Cup Winner: 1991
UEFA Super Cup Runner Up: 1999
Intercontinental Cup: 1999
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 11:14 AM
Why Don?
 
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Yeah, I saw that on Wiki.

I was forgot that he beat his record last year, not equalled it.
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 11:17 AM
elephantstone
 
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Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky
FA Premier League - Champion (10): 1992-93, 1993-94, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1998-99, 1999-00, 2000-01, 2002-03, 2006-07, 2007-08
FA Premier League - Runner Up: 1994-95, 1997-98, 2005-06
FA Youth Cup Winner: 1992
FA Cup Winner (4): 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004
FA Cup Runner Up: 1995, 2005, 2007
League Cup Winner (2): 1992, 2006
League Cup Runner Up: 1994, 2003
Community Shield Winner (6): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007
Community Shield Runner Up: 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2004
UEFA Champions League Winner: 1999
UEFA Super Cup Winner: 1991
UEFA Super Cup Runner Up: 1999
Intercontinental Cup: 1999
The guy is a legend
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 11:17 AM
eric1966
 
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Giggs equalled Phil Neals record of 9 league championship medals last year.
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 11:19 AM
red red robbo
 
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Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky
FA Premier League - Champion (10): 1992-93, 1993-94, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1998-99, 1999-00, 2000-01, 2002-03, 2006-07, 2007-08
FA Premier League - Runner Up: 1994-95, 1997-98, 2005-06
FA Youth Cup Winner: 1992
FA Cup Winner (4): 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004
FA Cup Runner Up: 1995, 2005, 2007
League Cup Winner (2): 1992, 2006
League Cup Runner Up: 1994, 2003
Community Shield Winner (6): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007
Community Shield Runner Up: 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2004
UEFA Champions League Winner: 1999
UEFA Super Cup Winner: 1991
UEFA Super Cup Runner Up: 1999
Intercontinental Cup: 1999
Just to compare with another player, I don't know, how about a certain shite geordie striker

Premier League Winner: 1994–95 (Blackburn Rovers)
Premier League Runner up: 1993–94 (Blackburn Rovers), 1996–97 (Newcastle United)
FA Cup Runner up: 1998, 1999 (Newcastle United)


Which makes this:

In the awards to mark ten seasons of the Premier League, Shearer was named as: Overall Player of the Decade, Domestic Player of the Decade, Outstanding Contribution to the Premier League and Top Goalscorer.

Look rather silly.
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 11:22 AM
SilverSurfer
 
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If we win tomorrow and he makes an appearance, he becomes the most decorated player in English football history, I think.

It would beats that bitter money-grasping @#%&! Phil Neal. If that isn't motivation, I dunno what is.
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 11:26 AM
puressence
 
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Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky
FA Premier League - Champion (10): 1992-93, 1993-94, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1998-99, 1999-00, 2000-01, 2002-03, 2006-07, 2007-08
FA Premier League - Runner Up: 1994-95, 1997-98, 2005-06
FA Youth Cup Winner: 1992
FA Cup Winner (4): 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004
FA Cup Runner Up: 1995, 2005, 2007
League Cup Winner (2): 1992, 2006
League Cup Runner Up: 1994, 2003
Community Shield Winner (6): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007
Community Shield Runner Up: 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2004
UEFA Champions League Winner: 1999
UEFA Super Cup Winner: 1991
UEFA Super Cup Runner Up: 1999
Intercontinental Cup: 1999

£#%&! me not bad for a scrote from cardiff/worsley .... can you imagine going round to look at his medals ..
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 11:35 AM
antonin jablonsky
 
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£#%&! me not bad for a scrote from cardiff/worsley .... can you imagine going round to look at his medals ..
Still, useless @#%&! shoulda been £#%&!ed off before he settled the Wigan game eh?

Absolute legend.
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 11:42 AM
puressence
 
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Still, useless @#%&! shoulda been £#%&!ed off before he settled the Wigan game eh?

Absolute legend.
yep
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 12:12 PM
The Watcher
 
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[SIZE="4"]Ryan Giggs is Manchester United's "golden boy"
By Oliver Holt, Chief Sports Writer 20/05/2008

THE JOY of discovery fell upon Sir Alex Ferguson as rapturously as the thrill that assails the great explorers when they first set eyes on the object of their wanderings.

One day in 1987 at The Cliff - Manchester United's old training ground - Ferguson found himself gazing in awe at a sight that seemed to him like a great natural wonder.

Dr Livingstone may have discovered Victoria Falls, Howard Carter may have excavated the tomb of Tutankhamun, but Ferguson had just found Ryan Giggs. He had been recommended by an Old Trafford ground steward called Harold Wood and the manager invited the 14-year-old to play in a trial match. He was astonished by what he saw.

"Ryan gave me one of those rare and priceless moments that make all the sweat, frustration and misery of management worthwhile," Ferguson said.

Advertisement"A gold miner who has searched every part of the river or mountain and then suddenly finds himself staring at a nugget could not feel more exhilaration than I did watching Giggs that day.

"I shall always remember my first sight of him, floating over the pitch at The Cliff so effortlessly that you would have sworn his feet weren't touching the ground.

"He carried his head high and he looked as relaxed and natural on the park as a dog chasing a piece of silver paper in the wind. From that moment on, we protected Ryan like the treasure he was." The treasure he was and the treasure he continues to be. Eric Cantona may have been Ferguson's catalyst and Roy Keane his embodiment on the pitch but Giggs is his greatest achievement.

Tomorrow night, here in the Russian capital, Giggs will break the United appearance record set by Sir Bobby Charlton. The Champions League Final against Chelsea will be his 759th game for the club.

It was a record many assumed would never be broken but Giggs stands on the threshold.

Whatever the result against Chelsea, it will be a momentous evening for that alone.

It gives him a claim to be United's greatest ever player..

He has won 10 league titles, more than anyone from any English club, not just United.

He has won the European Cup once, the FA Cup four times and the League Cup twice.

His 17 major honours leave him level with former Liverpool defender Phil Neal as the most decorated player in English football history.

If United beat Chelsea in the Luzhniki Stadium, it will be No.18 and Giggs, once again, will be out on his own, free of his pursuers. Catch him if you can..

Not many have managed it in the 17 years he has graced the English game, terrifying and teasing his opponents.

In the early phase of his career after he made his debut in March 1991, he was hailed as the new George Best, inevitably. He was closer in style to the Irishman than Cristiano Ronaldo, the latest to be given the label.

Ronaldo uses his pace to attack space and exploit gaps but, for all his bewitching tricks and step-overs, he is not a great dribbler of the ball.

Giggs was. His game has become more thoughtful with age but in the first phase of his career, he was a mesmeric dribbler. Closer in style to Best and Lionel Messi than Ronaldo.

His goal against QPR at Loftus Road in 1993, a lightning dribble past bemused defenders followed by a clinical finish, was one of the best I ever saw live.

But it was beaten by his famous strike, voted the best ever United goal, in the 1999 FA Cup semi-final replay against Arsenal at Villa Park.

Giggs scored a whole series of goals like that in his early seasons when he and Cantona, Andrei Kanchelskis and Lee Sharpe were ripping defences to shreds.

One of the most remarkable things about Giggs is not just that he has endured for 17 years at a club as powerful and constantly evolutionary as United, but also that he has done it as a left winger.

It doesn't happen very often to wingers. Usually, they burn brightly but briefly. They explode and then they fizzle.

Sharpe and Kanchelskis are classic examples. So, too, Peter Barnes, Arjen Robben, Marc Overmars and David White. All fine players who terrorised defenders for a while. But when they were confronted by the first hints of a loss of their pace, it confused them.

They couldn't cope. It was as if they didn't understand what was happening to them.

But that didn't happen to Giggs. It still hasn't happened to him. He's not the player he was.

He's different. Not worse.

Look at the goal he scored against Wigan at the JJB Stadium nine days ago, the goal that clinched a 10th league title for Ferguson and for himself.

Look at the way he drifts into position level with the last Wigan defender as Wayne Rooney picks the ball up midway inside the Wigan half.

Look at the way he drifts one way, then the other, instinctively staying onside as

Rooney looks up and plays the ball to his feet. The way that he takes one perfect touch to cushion the ball and then guides it past the onrushing Chris Kirkland like Tiger Woods stroking the ball into the cup.

That goal was as beautiful in its conception and execution as those he scored in the early and mid-90s when he was even more lithe, even more lightning fast, than he is now.

He has got to the place he is now with such grace and class, with such quiet professionalism and inspirational energy. Like Paul Scholes, he's one of the last one-club men.

Nor has he sought the spotlight away from the pitch.

It has often been said that David Beckham's emergence at United helped Giggs because it allowed him to lead a quiet life.

And Giggs never dived. He never cheated. Never waved an imaginary yellow card in a referee's face, never went down if he could stay on his feet.

Sure, he's done his share of complaining to the referee in his time but, then again, he's often had cause.

The reality remains that his conduct, his ability and his achievements make him a worthy successor to Charlton as the man who has played for United more than any other.

"Looking back now," Ferguson wrote in his 1999 autobiography, "I feel I can honestly say that whatever United have paid me in my 13 years at Old Trafford was justified at a stroke by securing Ryan." That's nine years ago. Imagine how proud Ferguson must feel now. Imagine how proud he'll feel tomorrow night when Giggs, dressed again in the colours of this famous club, runs out one more time..
From todays Mirror.
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 12:27 PM
edwin
 
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Originally Posted by red red robbo
Just to compare with another player, I don't know, how about a certain shite geordie striker

Premier League Winner: 1994–95 (Blackburn Rovers)
Premier League Runner up: 1993–94 (Blackburn Rovers), 1996–97 (Newcastle United)
FA Cup Runner up: 1998, 1999 (Newcastle United)


Which makes this:

In the awards to mark ten seasons of the Premier League, Shearer was named as: Overall Player of the Decade, Domestic Player of the Decade, Outstanding Contribution to the Premier League and Top Goalscorer.

Look rather silly.
Shearer wasn't in the game for medals, just money and personal glory

He's rather have scored a hattrick in a 3-4 defeat, than not scored in a 1-0 win
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 12:28 PM
red red robbo
 
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Originally Posted by edwin
Shearer wasn't in the game for medals, just money and personal glory

He's rather have scored a hattrick in a 3-4 defeat, than not scored in a 1-0 win
My thoughts on him exactly.
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 12:34 PM
Sparky***
 
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you remember when he got man of the match in tokyo and they gave him a car?

His face.
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 12:37 PM
dunk
 
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Originally Posted by Sparky6899
you remember when he got man of the match in tokyo and they gave him a car?

His face.
A £#%&!ing toyota as well, He looked at it as if to say 'what the £#%&! am I supposed to do with that?
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 12:37 PM
dodger
 
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Originally Posted by Why Don?
I always thought that Giggs had just overtaken Hansen this season but apparently Giggs has 10 and Hansen 8.

My memory isn't the best but perhaps Giggs didn't get a medal in 92/93?
It was Phil Neal he overtook by the way.
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 12:38 PM
Gog Coch
 
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Originally Posted by edwin
Shearer wasn't in the game for medals, just money and personal glory

He's rather have scored a hattrick in a 3-4 defeat, than not scored in a 1-0 win
Bang on!
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 05:40 PM
Part 36 Offer
 
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Cheers, The Watcher.


Love this bit..


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Sharpe and Kanchelskis are classic examples. So, too, Peter Barnes, Arjen Robben, Marc Overmars and David White. All fine players who terrorised defenders for a while. But when they were confronted by the first hints of a loss of their pace, it confused them.

They couldn't cope. It was as if they didn't understand what was happening to them.

But that didn't happen to Giggs. It still hasn't happened to him. He's not the player he was.

He's different. Not worse.

Look at the goal he scored against Wigan at the JJB Stadium nine days ago, the goal that clinched a 10th league title for Ferguson and for himself.

Look at the way he drifts into position level with the last Wigan defender as Wayne Rooney picks the ball up midway inside the Wigan half.

Look at the way he drifts one way, then the other, instinctively staying onside as

Rooney looks up and plays the ball to his feet. The way that he takes one perfect touch to cushion the ball and then guides it past the onrushing Chris Kirkland like Tiger Woods stroking the ball into the cup.


My favourite ever united player.


I could watch the goals he scored against QPR and Tottenham all day.


Long live the Welsh Wizard.
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 05:49 PM
Zorg
 
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Hansen won loads of other honours though:

Captain Scarlet Lookalike of the Year 1977-1991
Liverpool FC Fancy Dress Party Winner (as Captain Scarlet) 1977-1991
Scotland Fancy Dress Party Winner (as Captain Scarlet) 1977-1991
Football Writers' Captain Scarlet Lookalike of the Year 1977-1991
 
Unread 20-05-2008, 06:06 PM
naes_sean
 
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Originally Posted by Zorg
Hansen won loads of other honours though:

Captain Scarlet Lookalike of the Year 1977-1991
Liverpool FC Fancy Dress Party Winner (as Captain Scarlet) 1977-1991
Scotland Fancy Dress Party Winner (as Captain Scarlet) 1977-1991
Football Writers' Captain Scarlet Lookalike of the Year 1977-1991
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