Luke Shaw

Originally Posted by marlo

Ligament damage.

Wimp

Originally Posted by marlo

Ligament damage.

Great band.

If the fat #@&%! tried eating a vegetable or two instead of pies he might stay fit for more than two minutes. His nutrient deprived body can't be expected to sustain that vast bulk in an elite athletic endeavour. The author of his own demise.

Originally Posted by forwardirektion

Nonsense. Paid an absolute fortune for him, he turns up regularly overweight and cries off all the time. If you're trying to improve the weak mentality of the squad you can't be pandering to someone who keeps £#%&!ing up

Not exactly black & white with his horrendous injury is it? He is just a kid, seasoned pros have struggled to settle as well.

Originally Posted by forwardirektion

More than 3 seasons based on the arguments given for shaw above

What are you banging on about?

Originally Posted by marlo

Ligament damage.

The lad is just soft right

Some people want it to be black & white, he's a soft fat @#%&! blah, blah... £#%&! him off.

But he can be both a bit soft & talented. Sometimes the penny drops, sometimes kids grow up. Sometimes this does happen on it's own, the Ronaldo stories about him coming back from the Euros after Rooney got sent off - he grew up on his own, his mentality changed as he was both indulged / coaxed along & his own maturity kicked in.

Shaw's no Ronnie, obviously, but he's an expensive asset with a lot of talent who could play here for a long time if managed correctly in conjunction with growing some %@#$&!s of his own.

Or sell him, buy someone else. Game of opinions innit.

Originally Posted by Baron

Not exactly black & white with his horrendous injury is it? He is just a kid, seasoned pros have struggled to settle as well.



What are you banging on about?



The lad is just soft right

Some people want it to be black & white, he's a soft fat @#%&! blah, blah... £#%&! him off.

But he can be both a bit soft & talented. Sometimes the penny drops, sometimes kids grow up. Sometimes this does happen on it's own, the Ronaldo stories about him coming back from the Euros after Rooney got sent off - he grew up on his own, his mentality changed as he was both indulged / coaxed along & his own maturity kicked in.

Shaw's no Ronnie, obviously, but he's an expensive asset with a lot of talent who could play here for a long time if managed correctly in conjunction with growing some %@#$&!s of his own.

Or sell him, buy someone else. Game of opinions innit.

No it isn't.

All will be forgotten when we have Mendy charging down the left side next season.

Or Blind

If it's ligament damage, if the scan confirms it, Mourinho has bigger issues than the on field bollix we see week in and week out.

How long has this been happening at this club? 8 or 9 years? We seem to get massive £#%&!ing injury lists and major injuries every year, since about 2009.
Is it the medical staff? Conditioning of the players not right? It's been happening since Fergie's time

Originally Posted by Clarkie

If it's ligament damage, if the scan confirms it, Mourinho has bigger issues than the on field bollix we see week in and week out.

How long has this been happening at this club? 8 or 9 years? We seem to get massive £#%&!ing injury lists and major injuries every year, since about 2009.
Is it the medical staff? Conditioning of the players not right? It's been happening since Fergie's time

Conditioning is about a lot of things - type of training (controlled by united), commitment and attitude to training, weight, body composition etc (not really anything directly controlled by the club).

If it's ligament damage it probably doesn't help that his ankles and kness are holding up a frame too big for them.....

But anyway, back to the point - since fergie there's been 3 completely separate back team staff setups with presumably 3 different approaches. They can't cater for injuries to el bumberclots like jones and smalling. Pogbas played a ridiculous amount of games which has a bearing on his hammy or whatever muscle it was that went. It's not the 'clubs' fault and I can't see it being likely that we just happen to have had 3 piss poor medical teams/coachs which seems to be what you're inferring.

It's no huge surprise the amount of injuries given the relative lack of squad rotation. You can debate all day long about the reasons for the lack of rotation but there it is.

Seem to recall Valencia struggling a fair bit for a while after coming back from his horror injury, had a decent spell immediately after his return, then started picking up niggles and further injuries for a good while, losing form and confidence, before eventually getting back to being useful.

Vidic too IIRC.

Originally Posted by dunk

Seem to recall Valencia struggling a fair bit for a while after coming back from his horror injury, had a decent spell immediately after his return, then started picking up niggles and further injuries for a good while, losing form and confidence, before eventually getting back to being useful.

Six years

Still doesn't score or assist any goals either.

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

Conditioning is about a lot of things - type of training (controlled by united), commitment and attitude to training, weight, body composition etc (not really anything directly controlled by the club).

If it's ligament damage it probably doesn't help that his ankles and kness are holding up a frame too big for them.....

But anyway, back to the point - since fergie there's been 3 completely separate back team staff setups with presumably 3 different approaches. They can't cater for injuries to el bumberclots like jones and smalling. Pogbas played a ridiculous amount of games which has a bearing on his hammy or whatever muscle it was that went. It's not the 'clubs' fault and I can't see it being likely that we just happen to have had 3 piss poor medical teams/coachs which seems to be what you're inferring.

It's no huge surprise the amount of injuries given the relative lack of squad rotation. You can debate all day long about the reasons for the lack of rotation but there it is.

But its been happening every year since the 09/10 season

Also, Shaw ain't even played that much this season

Originally Posted by Clarkie

But its been happening every year since the 09/10 season

Also, Shaw ain't even played that much this season

yeah, because he's been injured or reportedly unfit for large parts of it

Originally Posted by Clarkie

If it's ligament damage, if the scan confirms it, Mourinho has bigger issues than the on field bollix we see week in and week out.

How long has this been happening at this club? 8 or 9 years? We seem to get massive £#%&!ing injury lists and major injuries every year, since about 2009.
Is it the medical staff? Conditioning of the players not right? It's been happening since Fergie's time

United don't have the institutional doping his other clubs had.

Originally Posted by andyroo

Six years

Still doesn't score or assist any goals either.

He was useful long before that.

Scored at 'boro and has a few assists this season (1 or 2). The equaliser against the dippers at OT?

Originally Posted by Buck

United don't have the institutional doping his other clubs had.

Also this

Originally Posted by Part 36 Offer

could be the end for poor Lukeh if it wasn't already. Mourinho really doesn't fancy him.

He has clearly held a grudge from when he turned Chelsea down a few years ago and has therefore repeatedly given him a hard time at United.

they said the same about Mata, but clearly he's been singled out for special praise for coming back so quickly from a real injury and "giving everything"
he was playing almost every game up until then as well

attitude is everything to Mouinho and some players obviously haven't got what it takes (our english defenders)

A succession of small injuries is hardly a surprise in the aftermath of recovery from a major one. With the majority of players this would be accepted, if frustrating. Shaw however, has already had his professionalism questioned by his previous manager. That sets him apart from Smalling and Jones, they have played under a number of different managers, can not recall their commitment being called into question before.

I did my ligaments in recently and there was a bruise.
Couldn't have walked off the pitch mind you, had to arse my way down the stairs ffs.

Not sure what to make of this.

Originally Posted by Cream

I did my ligaments in recently and there was a bruise.
Couldn't have walked off the pitch mind you, had to arse my way down the stairs ffs.

Not sure what to make of this.

Also did mine at the weekend. Big £#%&! off bruise, hobbling around like a shit.... well, luke shaw.

Originally Posted by Tiberian

A succession of small injuries is hardly a surprise in the aftermath of recovery from a major one. With the majority of players this would be accepted, if frustrating. Shaw however, has already had his professionalism questioned by his previous manager. That sets him apart from Smalling and Jones, they have played under a number of different managers, can not recall their commitment being called into question before.

Smalling and Jones are £#%&!ing shitehawks and will be gone as soon as someone stupid enough to buy them can be identified.

Let it go man. They don't deserve it.