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Unread 08-02-2013, 04:10 PM
Ginners
 
Default What’s the point of Tom Cleverley?

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SO who “gets” Tom Cleverley?

Certainly England boss Roy Hodgson, who has started the Manchester United midfield man in all seven internationals since Euro 2012.

He’s the only England player who has.

After England launched their World Cup qualifying campaign with a 5-0 victory in Moldova, Hodgson went as far as to make comparisons between Cleverley and Cesc Fabregas.

Which produced a few dropped jaws among the assembled hacks.

And while all the talk was about Arsenal’s Jack Wilshere in the build-up to the 2-1 defeat of Brazil at Wembley on Wednesday night, Hodgson kept chipping away about Cleverley’s potential.

So he obviously stokes his manager’s fire.

And he’s increasingly becoming a United fixture after starting 10 of the last 13 games.

But many England fans are scratching their heads.

What does he actually do? How good is he?

To many, he remains an enigmatic figure.

He’s sort of six out of 10, vin ordinaire, very busy, OK-ish but nothing really special.

And when he’s poor — as he was in Poland, though, admittedly, played out of position on the left — he’s poor.

Yet based on the success of the 45 minutes he was given alongside Wilshere against Brazil — and with Steven Gerrard behind in support — he seems very much a man with an important England future.

And he would surely have played more games for United had he not been injured early last season.

United-watchers say the team lose something without him because he puts pace in the side.

He keeps it moving and has a sixth sense of where his team-mates are.

Yes, he beats himself up when he plays loose balls but then, at 23, he’s not yet the refined article.

Of course, he is overshadowed at United by Wayne Rooney, Robin van Persie and Michael Carrick.

And it’s the same with England.

But such appears to be Hodgson’s faith in him that the doubters among us may have to take stock and reconsider.

With Wilshere also providing real pace in midfield, England played a very high-tempo game against Brazil — even more so when Theo Walcott was released.

Frank Lampard and Carrick are more leisurely players so it will be interesting to see how it all pans out in the build-up to March’s vital World Cup qualifier in Montenegro.

But Cleverley isn’t the only United player under the England magnifying-glass.

If there was one disappointment about the Brazil game it was Danny Welbeck.

And we’re not talking just about the chance he had in the first half when he chose not to shoot with his left foot but hit it wide with the outside of his right.

He just seemed out of place on the left.

Yes, he’s scored five in 14 for England and yet for United it’s only one in 27 this season.

When Alex Ferguson was questioned about this the other day, he was non-plussed and talked of Welbeck’s work-rate, how he held the ball up, ran with pace and made space for Rooney and RVP.

Like Cleverley, though, he has time on his side.
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz2KJw3Gl6z

some idiots about :shakehead:
 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:11 PM
dunk
 
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I read that drivel earlier. Paid to write that shit :shakehead:
 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:13 PM
Jack Duckworth
 
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cleverley's has done very well, tbh. much better than i expected from the flash @#%&!. does the simple things well, learning his trade. will be some player in 2-3 years time
 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:14 PM
Mr Castro
 
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But many England fans are scratching their heads.
That'll be the headlice that.

Terrible article.
 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:15 PM
dragflick
 
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Steven Howard's a #@&%!.

Wasn't convinced by Clevz[SIZE="1"](TM) at first, but he's won me over. Makes others play well, constantly moving into space/quick passing. Scored a couple of nice goals aswell.
 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:15 PM
BryanRobson'sLiver
 
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I could do that.

Post every sentance as a paragraph to make your reader think you're giving them just the facts.

Then come out with any old shit and sun readers will lap it up.

Tossers.
 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:15 PM
sullerz
 
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branding is the point
 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:16 PM
no fun
 
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hope he gets left out of the squad for the next game, along with every other united player
 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:18 PM
thatsfuctit
 
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when he's poor, he's poor

thanks for that
 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:19 PM
Sandman
 
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He's the Facilitator
 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:20 PM
Scabs
 
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Not reading all that as it's quite clearly going to be a load of old %@#$&!s.

Cleverley is a quality young player who promises great things.
 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:25 PM
dodger
 
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Is he trying to make any kind of point there? Just £#%&!ing drivel.

"Give me 500 words on any old shit by tomorrow"

"Yes boss". <tap tap tap, rattle rattle, spellcheck> "Here you go".
 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:26 PM
General Woundwort
 
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Originally Posted by dodger
Is he trying to make any kind of point there? Just £#%&!ing drivel.

"Give me 500 words on any old shit by tomorrow"

"Yes boss". <tap tap tap, rattle rattle, spellcheck> "Here you go".
Bit harsh on Scabs.
 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:28 PM
dunk
 
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Originally Posted by General Woundwort
Bit harsh on Scabs.
 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:29 PM
believe
 
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He's ok when we're playing well and pretty shit when we're not, it's quite easy to see. If we win the league with him in the squad then fair enough, if we don't then I'll blame him along with others.

What is the point?
 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:30 PM
Scabs
 
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Originally Posted by General Woundwort
Bit harsh on Scabs.




 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:35 PM
saffers
 
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Cleverley is very average, lets be real here. If Anderson had a modicum of disipline, Cleverley would be a permanent benchbitch. Talent wise big Ando is streets ahead.
 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:37 PM
hopkins
 
Thumbs up

I'd love to see a triumvirate of TC23™ and Wilshere, with Carrick behind them, at United
 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:40 PM
Ginners
 
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Cleverley is very average, lets be real here. If Anderson had a modicum of disipline, Cleverley would be a permanent benchbitch. Talent wise big Ando is streets ahead.
if my aunty had %@#$&!s shed be a freak tbf

ando is never going to fullfil his potential sadly
 
Unread 08-02-2013, 04:41 PM
Harri Jaffa
 
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Originally Posted by general woundwort
bit harsh on scabs.
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