Fergie's Press Conference today...

Saucer of milk, table for two?

was due to misunderstanding between parties and fergie going on holiday at the wrong time. it was not because veron was angling for an out. nor about chelsea's money. nor about passports or going back to italy.

it was an accident.

a tragic accident, too. he was just about to shine. not that I am suggesting he did not shine previously. he did, but some people are too blind to see that.

keane should have been told to play like makelele and stay the £#%&! out of the opposition half.

Originally Posted by jem

was due to misunderstanding between parties and fergie going on holiday at the wrong time. it was not because veron was angling for an out. nor about chelsea's money. nor about passports or going back to italy.

it was an accident.

a tragic accident, too. he was just about to shine. not that I am suggesting he did not shine previously. he did, but some people are too blind to see that.

I liked Veron a lot, too, but the proof in the pudding is what he achieved after he was sold by the holidaying/non holidaying Ferguson. bugger all, really. if he was a truly great player, I am sure we would have seen it after he left. we didn't...

Originally Posted by BarryX

I liked Veron a lot, too, but the proof in the pudding is what he achieved after he was sold by the holidaying/non holidaying Ferguson. bugger all, really. if he was a truly great player, I am sure we would have seen it after he left. we didn't...

On that basis we shouldn't have sold Forlan but he would never have cut it at United. Who knows what we did to Veron's confidence.

veron was shite

get your head round it

shite i say

Originally Posted by Billy Baroo

veron was shite

get your head round it

shite i say

I am too busy posting photos of cats to answer this right now.

Originally Posted by Billy Baroo

veron was shite

get your head round it

shite i say

I wish you'd said this earlier, for years I've thought selling him was a mistake.

Originally Posted by jem

I am too busy posting photos of cats to answer this right now.

hello

Originally Posted by jem

was due to misunderstanding between parties and fergie going on holiday at the wrong time. it was not because veron was angling for an out. nor about chelsea's money. nor about passports or going back to italy.

it was an accident.

a tragic accident, too. he was just about to shine. not that I am suggesting he did not shine previously. he did, but some people are too blind to see that.

Except that he was sold during the tour of America, where he was with SAF and had been back in training for 2-3 weeks. Plenty of time to stop any 'accidental' transfer.

I agree with the fact we should have kept him, but he did miss the vast majority of the following season so we probably did the right thing.

Originally Posted by Spiffy

On that basis we shouldn't have sold Forlan but he would never have cut it at United. Who knows what we did to Veron's confidence.

Who says that we 'did' anything? Just being at a club like United, with our expectations and demands, is like being thrown in at the deep end of football. Some have the psyche to deal with it (RVN), some don't, that's all.

Originally Posted by utd99

Who says that we 'did' anything? Just being at a club like United, with our expectations and demands, is like being thrown in at the deep end of football. Some have the psyche to deal with it (RVN), some don't, that's all.

Keane has admitted that he treated him like shit. He wasn't welcomed into the squad probably because Keane thought he might replace him. He said he used to go for long walks at night on his own just to think things through, I felt for the guy tbh. We paid a shit load for a world class player who was outperforming Zidane in the same league and a couple of years later sold an empty shell of a footballer.

Originally Posted by dunk

Except that he was sold during the tour of America, where he was with SAF and had been back in training for 2-3 weeks. Plenty of time to stop any 'accidental' transfer.

I agree with the fact we should have kept him, but he did miss the vast majority of the following season so we probably did the right thing.

he was sold after the tour.

Originally Posted by jem

he was sold after the tour.

I'm pretty sure it was during. Didn't he fly home to sign?

Originally Posted by jem

he was sold after the tour.

The deal was practically done right after the Juventus game and that pass I was gutted. I was convinced he was about to really come to the fore for us. It may have been the last game of the tour and they flew home, it was done within a few days though.

The point was, that if he wanted to stay and Fergie wanted to keep him so badly, they had 3 weeks to sort it out between them whilst away. They didn't. Neither were really that arsed then were they? Fergie certainly wasn't on holiday while the tour was going on.

Edit: Also, we had just signed Kleberson and Djemba, so we had too many midfielders really.

Originally Posted by Spiffy

I'm pretty sure it was during. Didn't he fly home to sign?

I thought that. Didn't we then go and play Sporting and sign Ronaldo and he went home to sign for Chelsea?

Originally Posted by dunk

The deal was practically done right after the Juventus game and that pass I was gutted. I was convinced he was about to really come to the fore for us. It may have been the last game of the tour and they flew home, it was done within a few days though.

The point was, that if he wanted to stay and Fergie wanted to keep him so badly, they had 3 weeks to sort it out between them whilst away. They didn't. Neither were really that arsed then were they? Fergie certainly wasn't on holiday while the tour was going on.

it was a mistake. I have the inside track on this.

Originally Posted by dunk

The deal was practically done right after the Juventus game and that pass I was gutted. I was convinced he was about to really come to the fore for us. It may have been the last game of the tour and they flew home, it was done within a few days though.

The point was, that if he wanted to stay and Fergie wanted to keep him so badly, they had 3 weeks to sort it out between them whilst away. They didn't. Neither were really that arsed then were they? Fergie certainly wasn't on holiday while the tour was going on.

Remember the press conference whilst abroad? The press asked Fergie about Veron going to Chelsea and he replied that if he was going to Chelsea he wasn't aware of it and nobody had told him. 48 hours later he was a Chelsea player.

Originally Posted by jem

it was a mistake. I have the inside track on this.

It's the only reason that will allow you to sleep at night isn't it?

Originally Posted by Spiffy

Remember the press conference whilst abroad? The press asked Fergie about Veron going to Chelsea and he replied that if he was going to Chelsea he wasn't aware of it and nobody had told him. 48 hours later he was a Chelsea player.

Vaguely. He's done that before though