LvG tactics left our players near mutiny

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

i don't take issue with that at all, it just amuses me that armed with that knowledge still pick up on everything he says and hold on to it for weeks

keane was £#%&!ed off. quieroz wasn't btw.





gossiping ffs. players don't decide what goes in the press either.

Exactly. Now imagine Queiroz was the new manager at the time. Doubt it would have ended well for Carlos.

Guardiola eliminated the potential opponents to his ideas. LvG probably made them captains and assistant manager

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Exactly. Now imagine Queiroz was the new manager at the time. Doubt it would have ended well for Carlos.

Guardiola eliminated the potential opponents to his ideas. LvG probably made them captains and assistant manager

are you actually asking me to imagine that quieroz had taken over from ferguson in 2005?

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

are you actually asking me to imagine that quieroz had taken over from ferguson in 2005?

If you want. Totally up to you.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

If you want. Totally up to you.

apology accepted.

Quieroz operated under Fergie; the players would have had little choice but to embrace his ideas. The whole dynamic of the club changed once he retired.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

apology accepted?

No.

Originally Posted by utd99

Quieroz operated under Fergie; the players would have had little choice but to embrace his ideas. The whole dynamic of the club changed once he retired.

thanks for that einstein

Whoever these golden snitches are they need outing pronto!

Originally Posted by Zorg

No, a player has been briefing them, it wasn't a press release.

A circulated smear. Call it what you will.

Originally Posted by MonkeyOnMyBack

A circulated smear. Call it what you will.

That sounds disgusting .

Originally Posted by Zorg

That sounds disgusting .

sounds like something from stubbsy's slaughterhouse

Originally Posted by Grimson

I think he was being a little simplistic there. They won the Champions League in 2005 () and were in the Final again two years later. I don't think you can drop off the radar entirely for more than a generation and still sell shirts in big numbers.

I'm not so sure. United barely won anything when they went 26 years without the title and remained the best supported club and number one media draw. You don't need to win to be relevant. Just have to be the main story.

Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

?.. what being a Mourinho team actually means. No more going to the top teams and playing to dominate, just sitting deep and trying to counter attack, constantly looking like a small time club up against the odds.

Sad times.

It'll be like Fergie never left.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Derbies could be brutal for the next few years. Dearly hope they won't pan out the way you'd expect.



This is true, but that was in Europe which I think does feel different.

Packed behind the ball against city at old Trafford surely a different vibe. Hope it won't come to that though.

Championship decider against city a few years ago and we didn't have a shot. When was the last time a Fergie team went to city or Liverpool with a positive approach? Van gaal's United were far more positive in such big games.

Being reported that a group of players went to the board to protest or raise concerns about MoU coming in. Probably Bollox but if true the precious little suits need kicking out of the club.

Originally Posted by Denis Irwell

Being reported that a group of players went to the board to protest or raise concerns about MoU coming in. Probably Bollox but if true the precious little suits need kicking out of the club.

jones, young, rojo, janujizz & fellaini hopefully.

Originally Posted by Denis Irwell

Being reported that a group of players went to the board to protest or raise concerns about MoU coming in. Probably Bollox but if true the precious little suits need kicking out of the club.

Wonder how many of the players have friends at Chelsea and Madrid and have heard horror stories...

Originally Posted by ScarFace

jones, young, rojo, janujizz & fellaini hopefully.

Originally Posted by Denis Irwell

Being reported that a group of players went to the board to protest or raise concerns about MoU coming in. Probably Bollox but if true the precious little suits need kicking out of the club.

Mata?

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

When was the last time a Fergie team went to city or Liverpool with a positive approach? Van gaal's United were far more positive in such big games.

fergie's last season we won at chelsea, at vermin and at city scoring 8 goals in the process.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

fergie's last season we won at chelsea, at vermin and at city scoring 8 goals in the process.

Yeah, well, you can prove anything with facts, can't you?

Originally Posted by dunk

Wonder how many of the players have friends at Chelsea and Madrid and have heard horror stories...

Yeah, those poor oppressed Chelski/Real players

My heart genuinely bleeds.