you could have fallen asleep during that game yesterday ...

Originally Posted by MUFC One Love

Scholes is clearly a fringe player in Fergie's eyes, for me he shouldn't get near the team for most games. I don't know why he played him yesterday, maybe 'cos he knew he could get away with it with Burnley and Wigan coming up away maybe he wanted to keep Anderson and Carrick fresh for them 2 games?

I think Scholes has enough in his locker to play against the likes of Birmingham at home FFS!

The man is a class act and is our most intelligent player. He just lets the ball do the work.

He can't play in the big games, agreed. But Birmingham at home...if he shouldn't start in games like these then he won't ever get a game this season.

Originally Posted by Rossi the Red

I think Scholes has anough in his locker to play against the likes of Birmingham at home FFS!

The man is a class act and is our most intelligent player. He just lets the ball do the work.

He can't play in the big games, agreed. But Birmingham at home...if he shouldn't start in games like these then he won't ever get a game this season.

He can play in those games, for maybe 50 or 60 minutes. after that his legs seem to go, Fletcher was a one man midfield from a defensive viewpoint for most of the 2nd half yesterday.

Originally Posted by Rossi the Red

I think Scholes has enough in his locker to play against the likes of Birmingham at home FFS!

The man is a class act and is our most intelligent player. He just lets the ball do the work.

He can't play in the big games, agreed. But Birmingham at home...if he shouldn't start in games like these then he won't ever get a game this season.

I don't think you understood what I was saying tbh.

Originally Posted by marlo

you could have fallen asleep during that game yesterday ...

Its funny you say that Marlo as I did actually sleep through the game.

I woke up at 4pm and missed the whole £#%&!ing match

Originally Posted by Don Stuarte

Its funny you say that Marlo as I did actually sleep through the game.

I woke up at 4pm and missed the whole £#%&!ing match

i dropped off abit during the 2nd half

Originally Posted by marlo

i know im not your average supported who will just swallow shit and say it tasted nice.

as a football we aim to get better every year and saf has even said its not good to 'stand still' in his own words?

we do not look inspiring at all and we still cant even pick and standrd starting 11.

we have a new youngsters always arriving 'next january', the one we bought from the previous january has dissapeared again(probably to the barbers to sort out his haircut).

i think we need that 'x factor'. they thing that seperates us from the rest.
what are of the pitch are we strongest in?
what is our strongest 11?
is the depth of our squad actually that good? (have we got a midfield that can score 5 goals a season let alone 10ish? have we got a striker than can get 20 goals a season?)

im not happy with what saf is doing.

Anyone able to translate this for me?

Originally Posted by PaulParkersPubes

Anyone able to translate this for me?

Yup.

"Marlo want attention"

I seem to recall the all conquering treble side struggling to a 1-0 home victory against Everton when they were really shit, relegation battlers, without having a single shot on target in the entire game. I was there, it was £#%&!ing dire.

Happens to every team. Especially teams with players making home/league debuts, important players missing against teams playing their first game in the League.

Originally Posted by dunk

I seem to recall the all conquering treble side struggling to a 1-0 home victory against Everton when they were really shit, relegation battlers, without having a single shot on target in the entire game. I was there, it was £#%&!ing dire.

Happens to every team. Especially teams with players making home/league debuts, important players missing against teams playing their first game in the League.

Thing is we [played some good football at times yesterday, particularly in the first half. It wasn't a brilliant performance by any means but it was decent enough, certainly better than the last 2 years, and really should've been 3 or 4 goals to us.

Originally Posted by My Name is Keith

Don't get me wrong , I don't join in that often nowadays. And I resolutely sit down and look angry whenever I'm asked to "Stand up for the Champions".

But I'm nearly 40.

But there's just no getting away from it, our home support is poo.

TBH home atmospheres everywhere with the exception of Stoke (who are all suffering a reaction to medication so it doesn't count) are always garbage and our away support is as quick as the Brum fans were yesterday at pointing it out.

Portsmouth last season being the best example for me.

Originally Posted by My Name is Keith

Don't get me wrong , I don't join in that often nowadays. And I resolutely sit down and look angry whenever I'm asked to "Stand up for the Champions".

But I'm nearly 40.

But there's just no getting away from it, our home support is poo.

we'll have half a dozen good games at OT this season, 10 if we're lucky.
if they don't get more locals in then in 10years time the support will be truly £#%&!ed. reduce the prices for locals under 20 (ish) and slap a bit extra on the OOTs (me included). do something anyway ffs cus you can almost feel it dying at times. getting more desperate by the season.

Originally Posted by marlo

it seems the fans have watered down their standards.

our best attacking midfielder should not be elderly paul scholes.

to be fair if we had progressed like we should have giggs and scholes shouldnt be getting a game.

where was tosic again then?

tbh if you truly believe that Giggs isn't still one of the best players in the Premiership then you're a £#%&!ing idiot.

Originally Posted by Withers

To be fair if somebody had told you 2 years ago that on the first day of the season, O'Shea would be captain, Fletcher would be our best midfielder and Micheal Owen was up front you would assume we had done a Leeds.

Indeed!

...& that's where, to a certain extent.... .....I hear what Marlo's saying (except for the bit about us having no flair players - Rooney is the best centre forward in the Country by a £#%&!ing mile. He will score 20+ goals again & he's a potential United 'Great' as far as I'm concerned)

Originally Posted by MJ Ramone

Indeed!

...& that's where, to a certain extent.... .....I hear what Marlo's saying (except for the bit about us having no flair players - Rooney is the best centre forward in the Country by a £#%&!ing mile. He will score 20+ goals again & he's a potential United 'Great' as far as I'm concerned)

You can hardly fail to, he repeats the same point about 30 times a £#%&!ing day.

Originally Posted by Charlestown Rouge

TBH home atmospheres everywhere with the exception of Stoke (who are all suffering a reaction to medication so it doesn't count) are always garbage and our away support is as quick as the Brum fans were yesterday at pointing it out.

Portsmouth last season being the best example for me.

I know but I really don't think you could get 76,000 people all sat in one place to be any quieter at any event apart from a 'being really quiet' event. It's impossible. The audience during a performance at the Bridgewater Hall make more noise than that.

We're Champions FFS.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

we'll have half a dozen good games at OT this season, 10 if we're lucky.
if they don't get more locals in then in 10years time the support will be truly £#%&!ed. reduce the prices for locals under 20 (ish) and slap a bit extra on the OOTs (me included). do something anyway ffs cus you can almost feel it dying at times. getting more desperate by the season.

tbh if you truly believe that Giggs isn't still one of the best players in the Premiership then you're a £#%&!ing idiot.

Bob on.

Originally Posted by My Name is Keith

I know but I really don't think you could get 76,000 people all sat in one place to be any quieter at any event apart from a 'being really quiet' event. It's impossible. The audience during a performance at the Bridgewater Hall make more noise than that.

We're Champions FFS.


Bob on.

six nations games are very quiet, especially twickenham.

i thought you were going the crooked tongues bbq anyway marlers?

Originally Posted by marlo

a team devoid of flair players.
we now even lack the pace to launch a counter attack or get the ball from back to front at speed.(even if we did berbatov would bring back and do a 'sublime' spin allowing everyone to get back into position)

from an attacking perspective only carrick was not in the starting line up and he isn't exactly an attacking midfielder.

just think of what would happen if rooney was to get injured or miss a few games...

*

no set piece specialist and our corners amount to nothing.

for all our thirst for 'out and out wingers', how many good headerers of the ball do we have in attack?

'this is it, this is really it'

*im not even going to mention the 'finisher'

we need a striker and an attacking midfielder and they need to be established and able to go straight into our starting line up. not unheard of youth players that we have to read extracts from some scout in world magazine to find out about...

we are the three in a row champions.our squad should be a lot better than it is. for one, our starting line up should pick itself.

£#%&! off you arsenal supporting @#%&!

Originally Posted by MJ Ramone

Indeed!

...& that's where, to a certain extent.... .....I hear what Marlo's saying (except for the bit about us having no flair players - Rooney is the best centre forward in the Country by a £#%&!ing mile. He will score 20+ goals again & he's a potential United 'Great' as far as I'm concerned)

I think he makes some valid points, but given the OP and the nature of the hysterical @#%&!s who follow him around the forum waiting to be offended, this thread was always going to descend into chaos.

I hope Rooney gets the goals you think he will. My own feeling is this will be tough, not least because teams will concentrate on stopping him now that they don't have Ronaldo to worry about. Add to that the one dimensional nature of our midfield and having only one top class strike partner in Berbatov (who does look a lot better already this season) and I really do think we'll find goals hard to come by.

More then that - against the top sides, or in the really important games you sometimes need a player to create something out of nothing when the teams needs it most. The only player capable of doing that in our entire attacking line is Rooney. So if he doesn't pull us out the shit when we need it most, i don't think anyone else will

Owen is a £#%&!ing joke. No pace, shit all round game and unable to beat a keeper in a one on one. £#%&!ing cripple can £#%&! right off.

Owen was not offside imo and scored a perfectly good goal yesterday - Quedrue played him on with his left leg, so it's understandable why the linesman may have missed it

Hart made a decent save the second time Owen was put through, though that telegraphed finish rarely works for Rooney when he's clean through either so I'd expect Ferguson to raise the matter

Both the defence-splitters - Valencia's perfectly weighted and timed through ball and Rooney's chest pass - were absolute top class