It seems to me that winning 5 KO rounds of the Europa League will be easier than breaking this top 4

Originally Posted by TheFatGoth

Will it be easier than beating Stoke, Burnley or West Ham at home?

We will probably beat West Ham at home in midweek. When its a cup game

Originally Posted by plopborsky

so shitting the bed now when we have a larger number of games to go in a small space of time makes sense ?

i think the difference here is i think this team is closer than most think to clicking.

That's my point: who decided that January is the time to worry? How bad does a situation need to become before we can worry without being labelled as a bedwetter.

I'm not talking about performances or luck etc, simply points. We don't have anywhere near enough and we now have zero margin already. That's where it's 'only December' works against us. We've used up all our lives.

The draws are killing our chances. Even this early.

Every week,

It's only eight games gone and we're only six adrift


It's only ten games gone and we're only eight adrift

It's only twelve games gone. Wait til new year.

We're back to breaking shit old records again: four straight home draws for.

We have form compatible to Moyes and lvg at the same stage....where we also didn't meet expectations. Simple extrapolation and being basically level headed says we are finishing around 5th-7th again. Just like last season.

To avoid this we need to do something we haven't done since Fergie left and win about 7 games in a row. Right now, we can't win 2 in a row

Let's look again in January? Actually, I can look when I like. I'm looking now and it's a dire situation.

Originally Posted by Billy Redface

That's my point: who decided that January is the time to worry? How bad does a situation need to become before we can worry without being labelled as a bedwetter.

I'm not talking about performances or luck etc, simply points. We don't have anywhere near enough and we now have zero margin already. That's where it's 'only December' works against us. We've used up all our lives.

The draws are killing our chances. Even this early.

Every week,

It's only eight games gone and we're only six adrift


It's only ten games gone and we're only eight adrift

It's only twelve games gone. Wait til new year.

We're back to breaking shit old records again: four straight home draws for.

We have form compatible to Moyes and lvg at the same stage....where we also didn't meet expectations. Simple extrapolation and being basically level headed says we are finishing around 5th-7th again. Just like last season.

To avoid this we need to do something we haven't done since Fergie left and win about 7 games in a row. Right now, we can't win 2 in a row

Let's look again in January? Actually, I can look when I like. I'm looking now and it's a dire situation.

That's a hell of a lot of words and I still don't know what you're getting at. What are you saying/wanting?

Originally Posted by dragflick

That's a hell of a lot of words and I still don't know what you're getting at. What are you saying/wanting?

Don't seem what's so confusing, Draggers.

Response to the 'it's only December' notion.

Originally Posted by dragflick

That's a hell of a lot of words and I still don't know what you're getting at. What are you saying/wanting?

New to Redface?

Originally Posted by Billy Redface

Don't seem what's so confusing, Draggers.

Response to the 'it's only December' notion.

That sentence, for one...

Originally Posted by dragflick

That sentence, for one...

Well that doesn't do me any favours now, does it.

Originally Posted by andyroo

New to Redface?

you are needlessly tormenting yourselves. on our current form, winning europa or finishing top 4 are a distant dream and getting dropped into the champs league would be an embarrassing waste of time. lower your expectations.

it would be nice if we looked coached, settled and confident. especially in front of goal. that's all. thinking about winning anything is a distraction. I hope the players aren't depressing themselves thinking about how many points we are off top.