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Originally Posted by Liu Jian

Not mentioned the Ronaldo money lately . What a £#%&!ing crank. Keep showing up at OT season ticket in hand you £#%&!ing hypocrite.

what, no playstation list?



you appear to be saying that i'm a hypocrite for supporting manchester united. and you're calling me a crank. oh dear.

Originally Posted by jem

throb will climb aboard any train that has smileys painted on the outside.

jem will climb aboard any train that has smileys painted on the outside.

adopting the style of francis and pee-wee certainly suits the intellectual quality of your argument, throb. I think you've found your niche.

Originally Posted by jem

adopting the style of francis and pee-wee certainly suits the intellectual quality of your argument, throb. I think you've found your niche.

is that some sort of middle class parlour game?

Thought these were excellent points tbf.

Debt and financial mismanagement
How is it that no Bundesliga club has ever gone bust or into administration yet dozens of English clubs have?


Leveraged buyouts
Impossible in most European leagues, banned in the NFL(!). Adding debt to a club for the privilege of having new owners. Nothing added, nothing invested.


Supporter ownership
Why is there no help (or even preference) for the most natural owners to take a stake in their clubs? Instead we end up with the crooks, carpetbaggers and dodgy dealers who have ruined so many.


Ticket prices
Record income flows into our game and yet prices rise inexorably upwards with supporters priced out. £100 for a non-executive ticket at Arsenal? Laughable.


The FA
Responsible for the debt ridden shambles of "Nu Wembley", the decline of the FA Cup and the shambolic England team and its manager. Not fit for purpose.


Financial inequality in the game – Champions League qualification makes you rich, PL mid-table makes you worry, relegation could send you broke. Lower than that clubs fight for scraps.


Standing
Why hasn't there been a proper debate on this? Visit a German stadium and see how they do it (no doubt they would sell us some of their highly engineered safe standing barriers).

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

is that some sort of middle class parlour game?

you're not covering yourself in glory here, throb.

the shawshank redemption, the godfather, citizen kane, pee-wee's big adventure, apocalypse now..... they're the classics, my friend.

they are that norm, they are that.

in terms of how it's run english football is a shambles.

Originally Posted by jem

you're not covering yourself in glory here, throb.

the shawshank redemption, the godfather, citizen kane, pee-wee's big adventure, apocalypse now..... they're the classics, my friend.

Originally Posted by borsuk

they are that norm, they are that.

in terms of how it's run english football is a shambles.

what? no!

no, no, no, no, no.

everything's ok.