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Unread 11-08-2023, 09:04 PM
magic_cantona
 
Football Chelsea, FFP and the Premier League.

So Chelsea's parent company Clear Lake is Saudi backed, so that's where the unlimited funds are allegedly coming from. But either way, isn't it absolutely abundantly clear to everyone that there's no way they're complying with FFP? Despite the 7 and 8 year contracts, there's just no way, is there?

Funny what happened to Liverpool today, NQAT but the wider implications are that Chelsea don't give a £#%&! and its not on. With the PL not even addressing the 116 charges against City, what's your opinion on Chelsea?
 
Unread 11-08-2023, 09:07 PM
windy waffles
 
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Great bunch of lads...

All seriousness, it's £#%&!ed up...

It's seems worse than when Roman was owner ffs...
 
Unread 11-08-2023, 09:09 PM
Sparky***
 
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So Chelsea's parent company Clear Lake is Saudi backed, so that's where the unlimited funds are allegedly coming from. But either way, isn't it absolutely abundantly clear to everyone that there's no way they're complying with FFP? Despite the 7 and 8 year contracts, there's just no way, is there?

Funny what happened to Liverpool today, NQAT but the wider implications are that Chelsea don't give a £#%&! and its not on. With the PL not even addressing the 116 charges against City, what's your opinion on Chelsea?
At some point you have to make it make sense on the balance sheet. They're spending absolutely eye-spinning sums of money but they're also shifting a hell of a lot of players and clawing back loads.

We'll see what happens but there's something very off about their hyper investment since this yank took over.
 
Unread 11-08-2023, 09:11 PM
Dr Stranger
 
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At some point you have to make it make sense on the balance sheet. They're spending absolutely eye-spinning sums of money but they're also shifting a hell of a lot of players and clawing back loads.

We'll see what happens but there's something very off about their hyper investment since this yank took over.
This.

They’re probably still on the honeymoon period where they don’t have to report much of this and nobody is really looking at them.

Let’s see what happens when they have to do their taxes.

Some of those city charges go back to 2018. It’s taken this long for it to come to light.
 
Unread 11-08-2023, 09:12 PM
Mr_Ed
 
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The game is gone.
 
Unread 11-08-2023, 09:20 PM
magic_cantona
 
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The game is gone.
It's not great is it?

The PL are totally to blame though. They're just leaving City to it so why would anyone else care?
 
Unread 11-08-2023, 09:28 PM
Mr_Ed
 
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It's not great is it?

The PL are totally to blame though. They're just leaving City to it so why would anyone else care?
I dunno… FFP is fooked so they can do what they want. Newcastle will do the same, Chelsea are £#%&!ing cash whilst having no Eiuropean football.

The amount of dollar being splashed about is shocking. I’m enjoying non-league football more and more these days.
 
Unread 11-08-2023, 10:37 PM
GBMUFC2020
 
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We hate Liverpool and Man City. £#%&! the southern @#%&!s
 
Unread 12-08-2023, 12:01 AM
browser
 
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Lavia, Caicedo and Olise incoming. Where are they all going to play? It’s farcical
 
Unread 12-08-2023, 12:32 AM
marlo
 
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when did we turn into such lil bitches….
 
Unread 12-08-2023, 05:23 AM
magic_cantona
 
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Lavia, Caicedo and Olise incoming. Where are they all going to play? It’s farcical
You look at Raheem Sterling (never rated him myself). 50m and considered a top player. Chelsea have bought that many players, he's probably 4th or 5th choice. It's like when you cheat code Champ Manager and end up bored because you've got 100 players and you're winning the league by 15 points. It just green lights sportswashing. Why wouldn't Newcastle start doing it now? (If the spotlight wasn't so keenly fixed on them, it'd have already started)
 
Unread 12-08-2023, 07:53 AM
Coracao
 
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If you go off Transfermarkt, they are currently in profit for this summer (outstanding potential deals for Caceido / Lavia).

The massive outlier is obviously last season. If you go back as far as 19/20 - Utd's net spend is higher by 185m.

They can probably offset a fair bit of by their approach to selling their youth players which generates good income and helps massively in regards to FFP accounting. Also helps if your owner invests some money too tbf.

City are adopting measures used by Chelsea in regards to selling their youth players. They both have very strong sides, often with players stockpiled. But they make decisions on them at the right times and can sell them for decent money. Their youth sides appear to be a function of generating revenue and if any of them actually make it, then it is a bonus - but maybe not the overarching objective. At Utd, the approach has never appeared that way - it has been about getting first team players. We often keep some of them far too long in the hope that they will eventually make the step up - Chelsea and City would have sold the likes of Tuanzebe and Henderson a few seasons ago and made good money off both. One ended up leaving on a free and the other we are still struggling to get rid of. We need to find a balance, as it hinders our ability in the transfer market. It'll be interesting to see if this changes if / when we get new owners. Wouldn't surprise me if we see far more money thrown at kids to bring into the academy.
 
Unread 12-08-2023, 08:11 AM
AK14
 
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You have to think that if the Qataris had taken us over a lot of these young prospects would have been coming to us this summer.
 
Unread 12-08-2023, 03:20 PM
red in cumbria
 
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Now being claimed they don't have the money to buy Caicedo after all
 
Unread 12-08-2023, 04:35 PM
browser
 
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You have to think that if the Qataris had taken us over a lot of these young prospects would have been coming to us this summer.
It would be absolutely £#%&!.
 
Unread 14-08-2023, 08:52 AM
dunk
 
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Unread 14-08-2023, 09:31 AM
Whip Hubley
 
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when did we turn into such lil bitches….
yeah, £#%&! it, who cares if multiple teams are financially doping via shady parent companies and middle east backers. let's just crack on.


rules? who needs rules

i for one think it's brilliant that city managed to do a treble despite being an absolute nothing club not 15 years ago. let the little guy win for once!
 
Unread 14-08-2023, 09:46 AM
browser
 
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Verbatim from a mate


My colleagues were talking to Chelsea last week about some dodgy sounding stuff. Todd boehly was trying to set up a weird shell company to come in as the main shirt sponsor but it got delayed due to concerns about it being a scam to pump more money into the club and get around financial fair play. The company didn't even have a website until a couple weeks ago, doesn't appear to have paid tax anywhere and was looking to pay 25 percent more a year than the previous sponsor
 
Unread 14-08-2023, 09:51 AM
Hyman_Roth
 
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yeah, £#%&! it, who cares if multiple teams are financially doping via shady parent companies and middle east backers. let's just crack on.


rules? who needs rules

i for one think it's brilliant that city managed to do a treble despite being an absolute nothing club not 15 years ago. let the little guy win for once!
It’s farcical. The majority of United’s e-fans want to join in with this circus too.
 
Unread 14-08-2023, 09:58 AM
Whip Hubley
 
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It’s farcical. The majority of United’s e-fans want to join in with this circus too.
If you can't beat em join em eh



I mean we are basically at the stage now where it's an open secret that you can basically do what you want in terms of FFP. When the PL do the square root of £#%&! all re city and their charges, it'll essentially be the final nail(s) in the coffin of the game. These are the people that decided newcastles and chelseas owners are perfectly acceptable.

The rules and regulations are a mirage if you've got enough money to chuck at the right people in power. So ever was it.
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