Pep To City?

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Yes, but that only really counts if that natural brilliance is already there. LvG can't teach Giggs to be a great manager because that can't be taught. All the great advice and experience only counts if Giggs has his own qualities. Kidd worked with Fergie for years; Steve Clarke was one of Mourinho's right-hand men. It doesn't mean much if they don't have that element of genius about them to start with.

I share Kaiser's concerns, tbh. I don't think for much of Giggs' playing career he was ever seen as management material. It's only something that has got going in the last year and to me smacks of romanticism over reality. Obviously it puts van Gaal in an awkward position when asked about it because he knows Giggs really wants the job, but I hope that when the time comes he will be typically frank with the club about his thoughts on the issue, whatever they may be.

Van Gaal knew when he took the job that part of his remit was to mentor Giggs. I'd hope it included the freedom to at least advise if he didn't think it would work, whether the club agrees or not.

Not sure I'd have Van Gaal handpick a successor either tbh, Lord knows what a £#%&!ing hash we made of that last time

Originally Posted by andyroo

Van Gaal knew when he took the job that part of his remit was to mentor Giggs. I'd hope it included the freedom to at least advise if he didn't think it would work, whether the club agrees or not.

Not sure I'd have Van Gaal handpick a successor either tbh, Lord knows what a £#%&!ing hash we made of that last time

I suspect he'd advise whether asked or not, tbh

This thing of club legends taking over so often just doesn't work. Even in cases where they've had some management experience, such as Klinsmann or Souness, the inclination to opt for a former great often leads clubs to make a bad decision. I think that's what Kaiser was getting at when he said that all the good work could be undone with a bad call when LvG leaves.

Would really like to see Giggs have a go somewhere else, maybe next summer. Even if it didn't work out, as was the case for Luis Enrique in Italy, at least it would give him some experience and test out some of his own ideas and intuition for a year or two.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

I suspect he'd advise whether asked or not, tbh

This thing of club legends taking over so often just doesn't work. Even in cases where they've had some management experience, such as Klinsmann or Souness, the inclination to opt for a former great often leads clubs to make a bad decision. I think that's what Kaiser was getting at when he said that all the good work could be undone with a bad call when LvG leaves.

Would really like to see Giggs have a go somewhere else. Even if it didn't work out, as was the case for Luis Enrique in Italy, at least it would give him some experience and test out some of his own ideas and intuition for a year or two.

Yep, just look at Gerrard on Sky the other day. Post match interview and he was already blabbing on about returning to the club "in some capacity". The arrogant @#%&! obviously see's himself as their manager in waiting and £#%&!witts like Geoff Shreeves lapped it up.

Be great if it did happen and he done a Shearer though

Originally Posted by Pop

Yep, just look at Gerrard on Sky the other day. Post match interview and he was already blabbing on about returning to the club "in some capacity". The arrogant @#%&! obviously see's himself as their manager in waiting and £#%&!witts like Geoff Shreeves lapped it up.

Be great if it did happen and he done a Shearer though

That @#%&! will be fully intent on soaking up all this adulation. Then trying to come back on loan in January. Absolutely nqat.

Going to City next season according to BeIN Sports.

Originally Posted by innit

Going to City next season according to BeIN Sports.

https://twitter.com/richardajkeys/status/625287600715247616

Couldn't care less tbh.

Arsed? He's taken Bayern backwards

Originally Posted by Vedder

Arsed? He's taken Bayern backwards

This.. or should i say, he's not exactly pushed on with them... and, and i know this will sound churlish, how many people could have done what he did at barcelona? Enrique's done alright, too.

Wondering when this would be bumped

Originally Posted by Rhodzy

https://twitter.com/richardajkeys/st...87600715247616

means £#%&! all then?

Originally Posted by elhombre

means £#%&! all then?

Verbal agreement ffs

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

I suspect he'd advise whether asked or not, tbh

This thing of club legends taking over so often just doesn't work. Even in cases where they've had some management experience, such as Klinsmann or Souness, the inclination to opt for a former great often leads clubs to make a bad decision. I think that's what Kaiser was getting at when he said that all the good work could be undone with a bad call when LvG leaves.

Would really like to see Giggs have a go somewhere else, maybe next summer. Even if it didn't work out, as was the case for Luis Enrique in Italy, at least it would give him some experience and test out some of his own ideas and intuition for a year or two.

the point is you cannot dismiss Giggs as a potential successor circa 2017 just out of some sort of misplaced pretence that in 2015 you know better that he won't be ready after working under LVG for 2 more years.

you can go round and round with the same arguments against all you like, you still can't dismiss the potential for it to work. and obviously apart from anything else giggs himself might not think he's ready by 2017.

Originally Posted by innit

Going to City next season according to BeIN Sports.