United "bemused" by Neville Woodward criticism

Originally Posted by forwardirektion

Think it's fair to have an opinion that he may have wanted someone older and more expensive but the club said you can have the younger ones for a cheaper fee and he's taken them instead of getting nothing like happened this summer

Real possibility

LVG said something along the lines of the club not getting the players he wanted iirc?

Originally Posted by Ethers

Contracts mean £#%&! all, I don’t understand why everyone keeps bring it up.

The idea that the board have to do everything Mourinho asks for purely because they gave him a new contract at the start of the year is bizarre. It’s a desperate argument.

Well a contract is more than just a financial commitment to an individual, it’s also a statement of intent, to wit: we like the job you’re doing and we want you to carry on. In those circumstances you might reasonably expect proper support to move the club forward.

I think the problem has come about because of Woodwards financial thought process and his inability to separate the player from the asset. In essence a 23 year old player costing x will be worth x plus or x minus in four years no matter what happens, whereas a 29 year old will be worth nothing, period. So one’s an investment, the other a pure expense; but an expense might be exactly what the side needs. That’s why you can’t have an accountant running the football side.

I’d have more respect for him if he were at least honest about that, rather than trying to justify our reluctance on footballing grounds (inexperience, injuries etc) because then you’re implying you know better than a top manager what they team needs. At that point it’s over.

Originally Posted by Buck

Koppas going for the clapback only to incorrectly spell "Big"

was just going to pull him up on it.

job already done.


YHGR

Originally Posted by Buck

Koppas going for the clapback only to incorrectly spell "Big"

Originally Posted by waynes ear's

was just going to pull him up on it.

job already done.


YHGR

Originally Posted by windy waffles

We played better football to be fair.

Sorry, earsy is correct here. From the start of 2014 especially, United under Moyes were almost uniformly dismal.

Has that Fulham game (to take only one example) really just been airbrushed out by the Mou haters?

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Sorry, earsy is correct here. From the start of 2014 especially, United under Moyes were almost uniformly dismal.

Has that Fulham game (to take only one example) really just been airbrushed out by the Mou haters?

Think it was meant more as an indictment of Mou's United rather than airbrushing the Moysie era.

At least under Moyes there was a dark humour about it all. Us being total shit had a novelty. It's not funny now.

I was a bit bemused too as he was all in on attacking jose then he was all in on attacking the board.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Think it was meant more as an indictment of Mou's United rather than airbrushing the Moysie era.

At least under Moyes there was a dark humour about it all. Us being total shit had a novelty. It's not funny now.

At least it was relatively brief too.

In to Mou’s third season and I’m struggling to think of more than a couple of runs where we managed to string decent performances together

Plus there was always the knowledge that he'd be sacked before doing too much damage.

Mourinho should have gone in the summer after that Sevilla abomination. Now he's been given time to extend Fellaini's contract and waste a summer on **** targets.

In the mean time we're no closer to City and have been caught up by Liverpool, and both those teams are led by players he didn't rate at Chelsea

Originally Posted by Ranier Wolfcastle

Plus there was always the knowledge that he'd be sacked before doing too much damage.

Mourinho should have gone in the summer after that Sevilla abomination. Now he's been given time to extend Fellaini's contract and waste a summer on **** targets.

In the mean time we're no closer to City and have been caught up by Liverpool, and both those teams are led by players he didn't rate at Chelsea

Part of the argument to give him another season was it was a WC year with even less time to plan for a new man and no top managers available this time around (doubt Woodward has even heard of Sarri and Teuchel was taken before the season was out). The board probably calculated that we would scrape top 4 this year and then next year a transition would be easier. I'm giving Ed a lot of credit here but if we do want Poch or Allegri we would have more chance of getting them next year.

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

Part of the argument to give him another season was it was a WC year with even less time to plan for a new man and no top managers available this time around (doubt Woodward has even heard of Sarri and Teuchel was taken before the season was out). The board probably calculated that we would scrape top 4 this year and then next year a transition would be easier. I'm giving Ed a lot of credit here but if we do want Poch or Allegri we would have more chance of getting them next year.

Don't think we'll go for Allegri as he doesn't fit the profile they seem to have outlined. Based on the press briefings the new manager would be someone who would emphasise youth development, clearly defined (presumably proactive) football philosophy and help bring the club into the modern world. Basically everything they wanted from LvG but abandoned after he left.

Poch would be the dream. I'm sure Levy knows he can't keep him much longer. Could all come down to what's happening in Madrid.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Don't think we'll go for Allegri as he doesn't fit the profile they seem to have outlined. Based on the press briefings the new manager would be someone who would emphasise youth development, clearly defined (presumably proactive) football philosophy and help bring the club into the modern world. Basically everything they wanted from LvG but abandoned after he left.

Poch would be the dream. I'm sure Levy knows he can't keep him much longer. Could all come down to what's happening in Madrid.

Think we may stumble upon Allegri. Got a bad feeling Poch will end up in Madrid and if it comes down to a Poch-lite or Allegri (hopefully fresh from sparing us a city CL victory) have every faith that Ed would abandon his lifelong dream of instilling a footballing philosophy at M16 and go for a flavour of the month.

If Ed is appointing the next manager 100% he goes for Zidane

Big name and out of contract, just like his previous 2 appointments

Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust

If Ed is appointing the next manager 100% he goes for Zidane

Big name and out of contract, just like his previous 2 appointments

Isn’t he a sporting director at Juve now?

IMO Alegri leaves Juve if they don’t win the CL, Zidane replaces him and we get Alegri.

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

Think we may stumble upon Allegri. Got a bad feeling Poch will end up in Madrid and if it comes down to a Poch-lite or Allegri (hopefully fresh from sparing us a city CL victory) have every faith that Ed would abandon his lifelong dream of instilling a footballing philosophy at M16 and go for a flavour of the month.

See you allude to it there, but someone surely is in Ed's ear about all this. Don't know who, but he'll be getting advice from somewhere.

Can deffo see a flavour of the month appointment, but I do suspect it will fall in line with the strategy they have decided on.

Originally Posted by AK14

Isn’t he a sporting director at Juve now?

IMO Alegri leaves Juve if they don’t win the CL, Zidane replaces him and we get Alegri.

We'll get whoever says yes to us. The last 3 managers have all been 2nd, 3rd or even 4th choice due to mass rejections of our prefered guy.

We're like an old second-hand Rolls-Royce.

Originally Posted by ScarFace

We'll get whoever says yes to us. The last 3 managers have all been 2nd, 3rd or even 4th choice due to mass rejections of our prefered guy.

We're like an old second-hand Rolls-Royce.

David Dickinson’s ?

just seem the thread title - who *is* Neville Woodward actually? Some sort of gruesome cross between Ed and Gary, perhaps

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

See you allude to it there, but someone surely is in Ed's ear about all this. Don't know who, but he'll be getting advice from somewhere.

Can deffo see a flavour of the month appointment, but I do suspect it will fall in line with the strategy they have decided on.

If it's within the club the likeliest candidate is Butt. He has been overseeing the restructure of the scouting/academy directly with Wooders. There are plenty of worse candidates I suppose but we have literally no idea what his vision is.

Of course they're bemused, Ed is the Glazers' golden boy.

He was at Merrill Lynch during the take over and basically facilitated the Glazer's buying the club in the first place, that's how he ended up with the job.

They absolutely love him, as long as they're in charge Woodward is going nowhere. As far as they're concerned they look at the balance sheets and the share prices and conclude he's doing a fantastic job.