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United in the 90s were a monster - financially and sporting-wise. Huge transfer fees; huge wages; huge deals in terms of sponsorship; muted take-over deals - even as early as the late 80s and early 90s. as you move away from two adjacent entities the distance between them appears to reduce - and that's how we're viewing the 90s and United and the competition: we don't realise how much of a gulf there was. we were a monster and no one came close to us - £#%&! off with the Walker stuff, it was a transient flight of fantasy, never to last. we bought in players in droves and brushed off their owners with impunity - dwight yorke at Villa being one example. Ferdinand at Leeds, although not as acrimonious. we could do what we wanted and we did. times have changed and we're on a par, if not behind the likes of Barca and Madrid. Times change and the increase in power, coupled with the chaos at the club may see us slip behind. how anyone can say this isn't the tables being turned is beyond me. we've done it to others, now it's our turn. that's life and i can fully see why City are so giddy - it's payback. if we were in city's position, or dare i say it, the glazers were magnificent benefactors to the cause, we'd write a narrative to expunge the financial cause of our dominance. we're becoming liverpool, but more bitter. |
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Yup, the bigger you are the harder you fall. The better you've had it, the worse the 'bad times' hit you etc ad nauseum It all needs to be taken with a dose of relativity though - we're in shit state as far as we know it, but compared to others we're still in the top 2 in the land in terms of trophies won over the last few years (I think? Top 3 at worst?) The problem comes in that we don't have a long term plan, and the fall out post-fergie has been horrific. Whichever way you look at it, it all started with Moyes. Got worse when we decided to bin LVG 2 years in, and is continuing by rightly or wrongly not backing Mourinho, 3 completely different managers with different ideas. Nice one united |
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We weren't even the biggest spenders in England in the 90s and compared to the top clubs in Europe we were miles behind in spending and wages power When we were spending 3 mill plus on Keane, Milan were spending 13 mill on Lentini FFS we were outspent by Rangers back then Commercially we might have been top but it didn't translate into transfer fees and wages |
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i think to say united didn't hold the balance of power in england due to their structure and finances is glossing over the facts, they didn't get to where they are, still, by accident. look at their signings over the last 20-odd years - in terms of outlay and frequency - it's big however you look at it. |
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Nope All our trophys have been won on merit and under the clubs own steam City's achievements 2009 onwards are nothing to do with the the club they just got lucky they where picked by billionaires wanting a vanity project. No busby babes or class of 92 etc. Just money buying trophies And that will always be levelled at them. |
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They are successful because their owners are rich If both clubs owners sold up tomorrow, we would carry on as normal or arguably be stronger...they would sink without a trace. |
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They are winning trophies, it’s a great feeling....when you lose the desire for that feeling and mock people you become a bitter nobody... |
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Just stating fact When Leicester won the league I (and most others)took our hats off to them. |
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