The renaming of Old Trafford.

grow up keith ffs

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

thanks for the pixels

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

grow up keith ffs

Not sure they'll bother renaming it at all, they're just kind of sponsoring around it right now. Maybe one of these sponsors having naming rights would scare off some of the others a bit and make it harder to continue the current strategy?

If some £#%&!ers came in and cleared the debt would you be happy for them to rename to say the Ryanair Stadium, Lancashireish? What about if they agreed to redevelop the main stand in return for calling us Disneyland Manchester?

The history of United doesn't end when the stadium changes anyway. History is just stuff that happened before. There was a decent post put up on here about that from a Chelsea fan that people were creaming themselves over.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

Not sure they'll bother renaming it at all, they're just kind of sponsoring around it right now. Maybe one of these sponsors having naming rights would scare off some of the others a bit and make it harder to continue the current strategy?

If some £#%&!ers came in and cleared the debt would you be happy for them to rename to say the Ryanair Stadium, Lancashireish? What about if they agreed to redevelop the main stand in return for calling us Disneyland Manchester?

The history of United doesn't end when the stadium changes anyway. History is just stuff that happened before. There was a decent post put up on here about that from a Chelsea fan that people were creaming themselves over.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

Not sure they'll bother renaming it at all, they're just kind of sponsoring around it right now. Maybe one of these sponsors having naming rights would scare off some of the others a bit and make it harder to continue the current strategy?

If some £#%&!ers came in and cleared the debt would you be happy for them to rename to say the Ryanair Stadium, Lancashireish? What about if they agreed to redevelop the main stand in return for calling us Disneyland Manchester?

The history of United doesn't end when the stadium changes anyway. History is just stuff that happened before. There was a decent post put up on here about that from a Chelsea fan that people were creaming themselves over.

wow you changed your tune

Originally Posted by aardvark

wow you changed your tune

at least you cut out all the bullshit in between

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

Not sure they'll bother renaming it at all, they're just kind of sponsoring around it right now. Maybe one of these sponsors having naming rights would scare off some of the others a bit and make it harder to continue the current strategy?

If some £#%&!ers came in and cleared the debt would you be happy for them to rename to say the Ryanair Stadium, Lancashireish? What about if they agreed to redevelop the main stand in return for calling us Disneyland Manchester?

The history of United doesn't end when the stadium changes anyway. History is just stuff that happened before. There was a decent post put up on here about that from a Chelsea fan that people were creaming themselves over.

Will never happen

If we got 200m, it would go on interest payments and new holiday homes in florida

Originally Posted by Harri Jaffa

Will never happen

If we got 200m, it would go on interest payments and new holiday homes in florida

thread ends...

Originally Posted by Harri Jaffa

Will never happen

If we got 200m, it would go on interest payments and new holiday homes in florida

Originally Posted by Harri Jaffa

Will never happen

If we got 200m, it would go on interest payments and new holiday homes in florida

Why would someone buy a holiday home in the area where they live?

Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop

DHL presents the Chevrolet endorsed Budweiser Stadium.
Sponsors reject association with a 'devil' mascot. Brand name is licenced as 'Red Christians'.
Ladies and Gentlemen, please stand for the anthem of the United States of America...

Don't. Just don't

From the Glazer thread

Originally Posted by borsuk


i hate the crass commercialisation of modern football, the celebritisation of players (i know this is hardly new - think bestie - but the process is out of all proportion these days), i hate the way football clubs have become so separate from their roots and communities, the way profit determines everything, to the extent that fourth place in the league is more desirable than an fa cup win, i hate the fact that players' salaries are so high these days that there is not even the remotest connection with the lives of supporters... in a word, what i hate is the commoditisation of something that used to be a defining thing in my life. @#%&!s have taken that away from me slowly year on year and the worst thing is you can't even say who has done it because it's the result of a process where the actors are all entirely incidental and replaceable.

As usual Borsuk does a very good job of articulating how many of us feel. It's not a case of 'why pick now?' or 'why pick this?' it's an accumulation of change, a gradual evolution into something that is different to what you fell in love with, and that process chips away bit by bit until something, usually an event or a realization proves the tipping point.

It's correct to say that our history is there, it happened and nobody can change that now, but it's the constants that keep you in touch with the past. The Babes, Bestie, Robbo and Eric played for Manchester United at Old Trafford. Old Trafford is the house that Sir Matt built, literally. It's a link that is strong and helps to maintain a sense of where we came from. They can sever it for the sake of a few quid up front, but they should be careful because it's not the only thing they'll be severing.

Originally Posted by boreez

Why would someone buy a holiday home in the area where they live?

Because they £#%&!ing can mother £#%&!er

Originally Posted by utd99

From the Glazer thread

As usual Borsuk does a very good job of articulating how many of us feel. It's not a case of 'why pick now?' or 'why pick this?' it's an accumulation of change, a gradual evolution into something that is different to what you fell in love with, and that process chips away bit by bit until something, usually an event or a realization proves the tipping point.

Wasn't it Andy Walsh who made the frog in boiling water analogy, in response to people saying 'why now?'.

I know a bloke who sacked it off when they took football club off the badge. I completely agreed with him at the time, but couldn't quite bring myself to do the same.

Originally Posted by utd99

From the Glazer thread



As usual Borsuk does a very good job of articulating how many of us feel. It's not a case of 'why pick now?' or 'why pick this?' it's an accumulation of change, a gradual evolution into something that is different to what you fell in love with, and that process chips away bit by bit until something, usually an event or a realization proves the tipping point.

It's correct to say that our history is there, it happened and nobody can change that now, but it's the constants that keep you in touch with the past. The Babes, Bestie, Robbo and Eric played for Manchester United at Old Trafford. Old Trafford is the house that Sir Matt built, literally. It's a link that is strong and helps to maintain a sense of where we came from. They can sever it for the sake of a few quid up front, but they should be careful because it's not the only thing they'll be severing.

with respect, borsuk hasn't actually been to OT for 20 years so whatever the accumulation of events is that has slowly eroded his feeling of inclusion in the community as represented by Old Trafford and Manchester United is more likely to have time at the top of the list as the single tangible constant than anything else.

I appreciate the sentiment in what you say, I really do. but it has long since said Manchester United above the door rather than Old Trafford. it looked naff when they stuck Old Trafford above the United Road and they took that away last year with barely a peep.

It will always be Old Trafford to me no matter what anyone calls it. I still see the wall round the back just as it was in the 70s when I first went. I still get the same arousal as ever when I see it on the horizon - even when I've driven past into town the other way half an hour earlier! In truth though it's a completely different place to what it was even 10 years ago. Who would ever have imagine back in the 80s that in 2008 the club would have called the concourse under the main stand the Munich Tunnel ffs?

fwiw I still doubt they'll sell the naming rights themselves. not saying they'll insist on them not being sold mind

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

with respect, borsuk hasn't actually been to OT for 20 years so whatever the accumulation of events is that has slowly eroded his feeling of inclusion in the community as represented by Old Trafford and Manchester United is more likely to have time at the top of the list as the single tangible constant than anything else.

it's a point i made myself in the same post that was quoted.

on the other hand judging from the response to the post there's quite a few who are still regular matchgoers who feel the same way.

Originally Posted by utd99

Old Trafford is the house that Sir Matt built, literally.

it's not a house and it was completed in 1909 by brameld & smith. sir matt was born in 1909. quite literally. maybe he just did some post-war refurb, eh?

Originally Posted by borsuk

it's a point i made myself in the same post that was quoted.

on the other hand judging from the response to the post there's quite a few who are still regular matchgoers who feel the same way.

tbf not going is probably the best way to keep alive the past...

the chipping away at the legend sentiment has been voiced a million times before... doesn't make it less true, but doesn't really add much to the question of naming rights either imo. At the end of the day do you wanna call it Warwick Rd or do you wanna call it Matt Busby Way? It's not that much different imo. Much prefer to see more gestures like the Best Law Charlton statue than all this naming roads, tunnels and stands meself, but there you go...

Originally Posted by jem

it's not a house and it was completed in 1909 by brameld & smith. sir matt was born in 1909. quite literally. maybe he just did some post-war refurb, eh?

Yes, by rebuilding the stadium.

The art of good pedantics requires some thought as to where and when, not just how much.

Originally Posted by utd99

Yes, by rebuilding the stadium.

The art of good pedantics requires some thought as to where and when, not just how much.

indeed. anyone would have thought the refurb comment wasn't a direct reference to the rebuilding.

see if you can find a photo of busby doing some bricklaying.

Originally Posted by jem

indeed. anyone would have thought the refurb comment wasn't a direct reference to the rebuilding.

see if you can find a photo of busby doing some bricklaying.

Ok Jeremy, I'll be back when I've found one.