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Unread 28-09-2017, 03:10 PM
doudou
 
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He's coming up with eins, zwei, drei reasons to hire him.
 
Unread 28-09-2017, 03:25 PM
Tiberian
 
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He's too laid back. After three years of Guardiola I think the board felt that a more hands off approach would give the players a bit of fresh air. Turns out he was just a little too casual and players even going on record saying they didn't feel they were doing enough work.

Nagelsmann the obvious candidate to restore some madness. He video-tapes training sessions. Sounds familiar
Perhaps understandable coming from Ancelotti, his last few years have felt like a firefighting/retirement tour. Probably have to go back to Milan for the last time he had a job where he could really put his own mark on a team rather than working with the remains of another manager's work.

Going from LVG-Heynches-Pep to a more hands off type in Ancelotti maybe too great a change. I wonder if Bayern regret moving Heynches on when they did? Age was a factor to be fair.
 
Unread 28-09-2017, 03:29 PM
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Unread 28-09-2017, 03:35 PM
S/Side.Red
 
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Perhaps understandable coming from Ancelotti, his last few years have felt like a firefighting/retirement tour. Probably have to go back to Milan for the last time he had a job where he could really put his own mark on a team rather than working with the remains of another manager's work.

Going from LVG-Heynches-Pep to a more hands off type in Ancelotti maybe too great a change. I wonder if Bayern regret moving Heynches on when they did? Age was a factor to be fair.
Heynckes was always a stop gap between LvG starting the change and Guardiola, who was always the target. He was actually set on retiring until he realised how well he was doing and obviously wanted to stay. By that time Guardiola had been signed.

In theory I like the idea of going from the hands on mentalist to a more laid back approach. Can probably work quite well. Maybe had LvG been more popular and successful the Giggs succession plan may have worked for a year or two.
 
Unread 28-09-2017, 03:40 PM
Zorg
 
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He's coming up with eins, zwei, drei reasons to hire him.
He'd make it difficult for TSG 1899 Hoffenheim, nqat.
 
Unread 28-09-2017, 03:42 PM
S/Side.Red
 
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He'd make it difficult for TSG 1899 Hoffenheim, nqat.
Tbf they just beat Bayern
 
Unread 28-09-2017, 03:44 PM
Tiberian
 
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Heynckes was always a stop gap between LvG starting the change and Guardiola, who was always the target. He was actually set on retiring until he realised how well he was doing and obviously wanted to stay. By that time Guardiola had been signed.

In theory I like the idea of going from the hands on mentalist to a more laid back approach. Can probably work quite well. Maybe had LvG been more popular and successful the Giggs succession plan may have worked for a year or two.
Age of the team perhaps key. Bayern with Alonso and Lahm retiring and a few others up there in age, Robben, Ribery, Vidal and Muller possibly past their prime, key period of transition. Needs more than that steady hand that Ancelotti has been in recent jobs.
 
Unread 28-09-2017, 03:45 PM
ScarFace
 
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Pub league.
 
Unread 28-09-2017, 03:46 PM
andyroo
 
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Tbf they just beat Bayern


"We aspire to be like 1860"
 
Unread 28-09-2017, 03:52 PM
Pop
 
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£#%&!ing Moyes. He'd probably relegate Bayern tbh. Imagine him being unveiled to the press, the useless @#%&!.....

"Au revoir. Ich bin ein Berliner"

 
Unread 28-09-2017, 03:54 PM
S/Side.Red
 
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Age of the team perhaps key. Bayern with Alonso and Lahm retiring and a few others up there in age, Robben, Ribery, Vidal and Muller possibly past their prime, key period of transition. Needs more than that steady hand that Ancelotti has been in recent jobs.
Yeah. In fairness to Ancelotti without some poor officiating at the Bernabeu last spring he might have won the CL.

Fine margins, but yes they perhaps need someone to rebuild a bit.
 
Unread 28-09-2017, 03:55 PM
jaffo
 
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£#%&!ing Moyes. He'd probably relegate Bayern tbh. Imagine him being unveiled to the press, the useless @#%&!.....

"Au revoir. Ich bin ein Berliner"

That £#%&!ing picture

That and the one of him getting changed on a plane with his keks around his ankles sum him up more than any football result ever could imo
 
Unread 28-09-2017, 03:59 PM
red in cumbria
 
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LvG going there would boil some Fredster piss, for that reason alone I want it to happen
 
Unread 28-09-2017, 04:02 PM
Zorg
 
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Tbf they just beat Bayern
 
Unread 04-10-2017, 11:10 PM
Lok
 
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They've appointed Jupp Heynckes (again) until the end of the season.
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