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Old 29-06-2007, 12:45 AM
toseeunited
 
Talking Love it when players call us "United" but it's even better when we're referred to as "Manchester!"

All the local lads, and the "home" players all call us United which is spot on, but there's something about when the foreign lads call us "Manchester" that's fucking brilliant - and must really piss off the blue bastards!!

Hargreaves has just reminded me of it, and obsiously Nani and Anderson's comments were about playing for "Manchester"

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2...290813,00.html
 
Old 29-06-2007, 12:52 AM
Cantona's collar
 
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I love it too, its like a total disregard for City which must piss the bitter cunts off no end.
 
Old 29-06-2007, 12:53 AM
Ether
 
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It's brilliant. Nearly everyone outside this country calls us Manchester. Must absolutely kill the massives.
 
Old 29-06-2007, 08:46 AM
Fountz
 
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Originally Posted by Ether
It's brilliant. Nearly everyone outside this country calls us Manchester. Must absolutely kill the massives.

They gave up long ago actually trying to forge an identity for themsleves and have existed vicariously for nearly 20 years or so, on NOT being us..

Initially this was their fans USP, their angle.. the "we're from Manchester arguement", however the Club realise that this is literally all they can offer their supporters, so they've also bought into it as evidenced by the "This is our City" Campaign..

Without us they really are fucking nothing..

Think of Espaniol or Torino.. The other little clubs in a big City dominated by a European Giant.
 
Old 29-06-2007, 09:32 AM
Serenity Now
 
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Torino
Hey, don't disrespect La Granata! Torino are a great club with a very proud history, nothing like City.
 
Old 29-06-2007, 09:48 AM
Fountz
 
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Originally Posted by Serenity Now
Hey, don't disrespect La Granata! Torino are a great club with a very proud history, nothing like City.
You're right Serenity..

I was going to say Atletico Madrid.. but they're far bigger than City..

Espaniol, or Espanyol as they're now apologetically refered to, are probably the best example.

Obviously aware of the impact that the Superga Air disaster had on Torino.. they literally never recovered from it..

Saw a programme that argued that it was after this that the Italy side adopted Catenaccio seeing as all their attacking flare players had been wiped out.

Last edited by Fountz; 29-06-2007 at 10:09 AM.
 
Old 29-06-2007, 10:07 AM
Serenity Now
 
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You recovered very well! Excellent post

When you look at what Il Grande Torino achieved and how they innovated tactically, it really is incredible. I've seen it argued that they were playing total football back in the '40s! They were certainly playing 4-4-2 more than a decade before the Brazilians.

In one match against Hungary back in '47 ten members of the Italian national team were Torino players! Only the goalkeeper came from another club (ironically enough, Juve).

Such a sad story, can only imagine how different history might have been without Superga and Munich.
 
Old 29-06-2007, 10:14 AM
Serenity Now
 
Default Records held by Il Grande Torino, from Wikipedia

  • Most consecutive Italian Serie A league titles: 5 straight championships from 1943 to 1949 (1942/43, 1945/46, 1946/47, 1947/48, 1948/49, in 1944 and 1945 no league matches were played because of World War II), which ties Juventus record of 5 straight Serie A league titles of 1930/31, 1931/32, 1932/33, 1933/34 and 1934/35
  • Most consecutive seasons undefeated at home: 4 straight seasons (1945/46, 1946/47, 1947/48, 1948/49)
  • Most consecutive league matches undefeated at home: 93 straight matches, with 83 wins and 10 draws (from January 24, 1943 to April 30, 1949)
  • Most points in one season (before the 3 points per win rules): 65 points (1947/48)
  • Winning the Serie A league with more points ahead of the runner up team: 16 points on Juventus, AC Milan and Triestina with 65 points to 49 (1947/48)
  • Biggest ever advantage on the English average: 6 points above (1946/47)
  • Greatest ever home win: 10-0 to Alessandria (1947/48)
  • Greatest ever away win: 0-7 to AS Roma (1945/46 Serie A Finals)
  • Most wins in one season (16 teams league): 20 wins in 30 matches (1942/43)
  • Most wins in one season (20-21 teams league): 28 wins in 38 matches (1946/47) and 29 wins in 40 matches (1947/48)
  • Most home wins in one season: 19 wins on 20 matches (1947/48)
  • Most away wins in one season (16 teams league): 10 wins in 15 matches (1942/43)
  • Most away wins in one season (20-21 teams league): 13 wins in 19 matches (1946/47)
  • Most home points in one season: 39 points on 40 available (1947/48)
  • Most away points in one season (16 teams league): 22 points on 30 available (1942/43)
  • Most goals scored in one season: 125 goals (1947/48)
  • Most home goals scored in one season: 89 goals (1947/48)
  • Most away goals scored in one season (16 teams league): 31 goals (1942/43)
  • Most away goals scored in one season (20-21 teams league): 36 goals (1946/47 and 1947/48)
  • Most goals scored in the 5 championship seasons: 408 goals scored (1942/43, 1945/46, 1946/47, 1947/48, 1948/49)
  • Fewest goals suffered in one season (21 teams league): 33 goals (1947/48)
  • Fewest away goals suffered in one season (16 teams league): 9 goals (1942/43)
  • Best ever percentage of goals scored in one season: 3.787 goals per match (1947/48)
  • More points in the second half of the season: 34 points on 38 available (1946/47) and 36 points on 40 available (1947/48)
 
Old 29-06-2007, 10:16 AM
MakeBelieve
 
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winning Serie A by most points has gone to Inter now, surely?

impressive list anyhow
 
Old 29-06-2007, 10:21 AM
Serenity Now
 
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winning Serie A by most points has gone to Inter now, surely?
2 points for a win back then. If you adjust to 3 points for a win they'd beat Inter's record by 2 points.
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