Mourinho wants Monchi as sporting director

Originally Posted by Clarkie

He did apparently report that big Ando was better than Rooney.

Moyes is no better. Sending Phil Neville to scout Muller only for Phil to say on TV that Muller wasn't "technically great" ffs

Love the idea that Mueller needed scouting

Monchi is Sevilla through and through. Hope they've got a decent back up plan.

Can just imagine Mou meeting Ed, Richard Arnold and every other #@&%! in a suit and realising that the awkward old fella he just met in the car park is the only person at the club who is vaguely familiar with the game.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Yeah what's the point of doing any of this. May as well just shut down the club and not bother.

It's needed doing for years. It's just a bit pathetic that their best idea is still to throw a load of money at Monchi

Would take it, obvs.

Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust

Mourinho's job isn't to scout players and then do the negotiations with the player and their club

Mourinho will give a criteria for the type of players he wants and then it would be up to Monchi to give him a list of potential players and then Mou would pick which ones he wants
It would then be up to Monchi to negotiate with the players club and the players agent and get the deal done

In a better run club the director of football would impose a clear football vision on the club and appoint first team coaches based on that vision and he would identify and sign players based on that vision

So, everything Fergie used to do on his jack (other than negotiating)?

It sounds like a more important role than Mourinho's and renders him nothing more than a glorified coach.

Hopefully with veto over signings? You make it sound like he won't have that.

Originally Posted by Cream

So, everything Fergie used to do on his jack (other than negotiating)?

It sounds like a more important role than Mourinho's and renders him nothing more than a glorified coach.

Hopefully with veto over signings? You make it sound like he won't have that.

That is a rather important role pol

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

It's needed doing for years. It's just a bit pathetic that their best idea is still to throw a load of money at Monchi

Would take it, obvs.

So what would you suggest they do then? Put an advert out in the MEN for a sporting director willing to work for nothing but get a company Chevrolet and every other weekend off?

Funny how the idea of throwing money at a "sporting director" is so churlish to you - yet you were all for the idea of Van Gaal being given another bazillion pounds to buy more players after the 250m he £#%&!ed away eh?

Originally Posted by Sparky***

So what would you suggest they do then? Put an advert out in the MEN for a sporting director willing to work for nothing but get a company Chevrolet and every other weekend off?

Funny how the idea of throwing money at a "sporting director" is so churlish to you - yet you were all for the idea of Van Gaal being given another bazillion pounds to buy more players after the 250m he £#%&!ed away eh?

I don't object to having the people who know what they're doing.

But we probably won't get Monchi, so it's little different to Ed deciding we need a forward and going after Neymar. When we inevitably fail to get him, are there any other ideas?

And Van Gaal spent half his money on Martial, Shaw and Blind btw. I'd take a few more like that. Though the manager being solely responsible for identifying players and the pitfalls of that is where we came in on this issue.

Originally Posted by Cream

So, everything Fergie used to do on his jack (other than negotiating)?

It sounds like a more important role than Mourinho's and renders him nothing more than a glorified coach.

Hopefully with veto over signings? You make it sound like he won't have that.

We have had a great insight into what happens when one man moulds an entire club and it relies almost entirely on him. When he leaves, you're directionless. As Ziggy mentioned earlier, it's not hard to install a common idea throughout the club, from directors down to academy coaches, with a footballing identity, a way of coaching and profile of players and coaches that is understood and shared by everyone. Do that and you'll find everyone gets along pretty well.

United right now are in the process of hopping between big name managers with no thought process behind any of it.

As improbable and obvious as it is, it does look like Monchi is leaving Seville

Whether or not he gives us the time of day is a different thing

http://elcorreoweb.es/movil/deportes...illa-LG1833580

If Mourinho manages to usher in a new regime of football people at the top level, I think that's success enough. The remit should be for him to leave he club in a much better state than he found, would hate to think Ed and the board want Mourinho to come in and do his best SAF impression, that doesn't do anyone any good

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

I know, it's just that having a massive scouting network and line of contacts throughout the world is something the club should already have. The idea that United need to bring on a Spanish bloke from Sevilla (as excellent as he is) to show them how to run a football club is just embarrassing.

Still, if someone like him is put in place and Mou continues the youth policy, then before long we might just be able to get away with everyone else above not having a clue what they're doing. I suspect neither will happen, mind.

yep like bringing in some guy from Portugal to manage it ..massive embarresment

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Benitez's wife?

Best football director in the game apparently.

If, IF, we want this monkey fella, we will get him.

Why the £#%&! wouldn't you want to run Manchester United while some 'manager' gimp takes all the flak?

No brainer. You'll get paid a fortune and have carte blanche to do what you want.

Originally Posted by Cream

Mourinho wants someone to interfere with his job??

I don't get it.

What do they do?

Everything he doesn't want to do.

Originally Posted by Cream

So, everything Fergie used to do on his jack (other than negotiating)?

It sounds like a more important role than Mourinho's and renders him nothing more than a glorified coach.

Hopefully with veto over signings? You make it sound like he won't have that.

Who selects his players. Dof presents options and does negs

This is now off until Mourinho speaks to Giggs first (supposedly) - Mourinho wants total control. Although my theory would be one of two things;

1) he wants to offer the football director role to Giggs first, before shopping it around OR

2) he never wanted a sporting director, hence the long drawn out negotiations and wants to maintain total control ala SAF

Would be a bit surprised with number 2, don't think I've ever heard Mourinho talk out of hand about a football directory apart of Perez. He always came across as a manager that didn't mind being recommended players just as long as they fit his mould. Plus when was the last time he had this kind of control? Porto? First spell at Chelsea?

We didn't make LvG job easier by not having one so it would be odd if we decided to revert back to the SAF model, seeing as everyone is of the belief Mourinho will be here for a short time (3 years) - what happens when he walks? Aren't we just back square one abliet with a better/balanced squad?

This is all conjecture of course, but from the outside looking in the club is a bit ruderless

Cracking article on him via TheseFootballTimes site.

Coming out of the blue on Monday night, news that Monchi had made the decision to leave Sevilla has sent the Spanish press into a frenzy.

The director of football, widely acclaimed as one of the best in the business, has allowed Sevilla to remain competitive over many years with limited resources by finding gems, letting the club help them grow and then selling them for a huge profit.

The 47-year-old was with his club on Tuesday for some meetings following his decision, and AS have revealed in the evening he has an offer from Manchester United waiting for him once he’s sorted out the finer details of his contract resignation.

The Spanish newspaper claim the offer from the Premier League club is “irresistible”, and with no others at the moment, his decision might be a quick one.

Monchi has spent the past 26 years of his life with Sevilla, 10 as a goalkeeper and 16 as director of football when he took over in 2000 following the club’s relegation from La Liga.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...a-league-final

Interesting article!

AS reporting he's close to joining

Originally Posted by Jethro

AS reporting he's close to joining

At Bayern by Friday.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

At Bayern by Friday.

Sparky feeling positive under Mourinho.

He'd have said 'by Thursday' under LVG.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Love the idea that Mueller needed scouting

Monchi is Sevilla through and through. Hope they've got a decent back up plan.

Can just imagine Mou meeting Ed, Richard Arnold and every other #@&%! in a suit and realising that the awkward old fella he just met in the car park is the only person at the club who is vaguely familiar with the game.



It's needed doing for years. It's just a bit pathetic that their best idea is still to throw a load of money at Monchi

Would take it, obvs.

if they decide on a sporting director then surely the point is to have someone co-ordinating our operations abroad, and what better place would you suggest we start than to have apparently one of the best there is working for us?

as far as i can make out your basic criticism is that the club doesn't already have an established identity of operating with a director of football? as if fergie needed one. as if he wanted one.