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Big Marcelo Gallardo has had unprecedented success in South America, failing that Paul le Guen is feeling refreshed after a spell in the French second division with Le Havre

Francesco Farioli could be a goer.

As long as they're South American with a journeyman CV that can't speak a word of the Queen's whilst implementing a high press intense style of play that will do me.

Would take any of

Alonso (no chance)
Nagelsmann
Inzaghi
De Zerbi
Tuchel
Flick

Originally Posted by Jethro

As long as they're South American with a journeyman CV that can't speak a word of the Queen's whilst implementing a high press intense style of play that will do me.

BYOB*



Bring your own bucket

Originally Posted by Hyman_Roth

Forest away in the cup when the knives are well and truly out? Sure we’ve been here before.

Honestly think if we bomb out of the cup then he’s even more toast than like, toast is.

I think he's treading on very, very thin ice at the moment. I really cannot get my head around the fact he can't seem to set us up to stop shipping chances and goals the way we do. This week has the potential to really put the final nail in the coffin so to speak. If we get dumped out of the cup at Forest and then smashed in the derby at the weekend, I really wouldn't bet against INEOS showing him the door in the summer.

Top 4 has gone, I think we'll finish exactly where we are now - 6th. If we get turfed out of the FA Cup by a team in the bottom 4 then I'm sorry, the manager can have little complaint if he's let go.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

I think he's treading on very, very thin ice at the moment. I really cannot get my head around the fact he can't seem to set us up to stop shipping chances and goals the way we do. This week has the potential to really put the final nail in the coffin so to speak. If we get dumped out of the cup at Forest and then smashed in the derby at the weekend, I really wouldn't bet against INEOS showing him the door in the summer.

Top 4 has gone, I think we'll finish exactly where we are now - 6th. If we get turfed out of the FA Cup by a team in the bottom 4 then I'm sorry, the manager can have little complaint if he's let go.

Let go? If we finish 6th and get knocked out of the FA cup by Forest then he should be fired out of a cannon into Davyhulme Sewage Works.
As bad as it has been since Fergie retired, until this season we haven't been played off our own park by absolute nobodies like Wolves, Brighton, Palace, Galatasaray, Bournemouth, Fulham etc.
He gets such an easy ride compared to our previous managers.

Originally Posted by croady26

Would take any of

Alonso (no chance)
Nagelsmann
Inzaghi
De Zerbi
Tuchel
Flick

Look at our midfield, wingers and fit defence. None of those managers get a tune out of it. Inzaghi would probably shore up the defence but we’d create nothing. The squad is the glaring issue. We didn’t expect to win anything last season but we did and finished 4th, we overachieved. Improve the squad, we’d spend 20m sacking all his staff and it would be better spent on players.

Originally Posted by Medlock

Let go? If we finish 6th and get knocked out of the FA cup by Forest then he should be fired out of a cannon into Davyhulme Sewage Works.
As bad as it has been since Fergie retired, until this season we haven't been played off our own park by absolute nobodies like Wolves, Brighton, Palace, Galatasaray, Bournemouth, Fulham etc.
He gets such an easy ride compared to our previous managers.

He does but then you remember we’re on our 5th manager in just over 10 years. It’s not far off city’s Steve Coppell clown phase managerial merry go round.

For me the bar was set eye watteringly low for Erik - he didn’t need to do that much - just get the basics right. But he’s failed even that

Originally Posted by Hyman_Roth

He does but then you remember we’re on our 5th manager in just over 20 years. It’s not far off city’s Steve Coppell clown phase managerial merry go round.

For me the bar was set eye watteringly low for Erik - he didn’t need to do that much - just get the basics right. But he’s failed even that

Yup, the Erik excuses are straying firmly into the bizarre, same happened with LVG. iirc no-one at the time was able to articulate his style of play (eye-watering dogshit) but now everyone has no such problem. However with Erik everyone has fatigue about sacking managers, him being given more time is less about him and more a general point that the club needs to sort itself out first to give the next manager a foundation.

He should probably go this summer but I find myself somewhat ambivelant about it as without wholesale changes to the squad and proper recruitment we'll be watching the likes of Shaw, Rashford etc miles out of position while Rotherham or whoever show up at Old Trafford and paste us 3-0.

Originally Posted by browser

Look at our midfield, wingers and fit defence. None of those managers get a tune out of it. Inzaghi would probably shore up the defence but we’d create nothing. The squad is the glaring issue. We didn’t expect to win anything last season but we did and finished 4th, we overachieved. Improve the squad, we’d spend 20m sacking all his staff and it would be better spent on players.

So who should be appointed or are you firmly in that camp of giving him another window to waste money. Worrying to see the vote so close considering how garbage we have been

Originally Posted by croady26

So who should be appointed or are you firmly in that camp of giving him another window to waste money. Worrying to see the vote so close considering how garbage we have been

He's not going to waste money is he now though? Brailsford, Wilcox, Ashworth etc will be overseeing things. He'll have a say, possibly a veto but he certainly won't be in the driving seat as he never should (& I suspect) never wanted to be.

Originally Posted by RedNick80

He's not going to waste money is he now though? Brailsford, Wilcox, Ashworth etc will be overseeing things. He'll have a say, possibly a veto but he certainly won't be in the driving seat as he never should (& I suspect) never wanted to be.

Why do you think he never wanted to be? Because he has ballsed the job up?

Originally Posted by RedNick80

He's not going to waste money is he now though? Brailsford, Wilcox, Ashworth etc will be overseeing things. He'll have a say, possibly a veto but he certainly won't be in the driving seat as he never should (& I suspect) never wanted to be.

You’re right - Erik getting involved with transfers was beyond his remit. He should be concentrating on the areas that he’s been brought into look after and that he’s expert in - fitness, so our players are top of the tree in effort terms and avoid unnecessary injuries and tactics so we can perform as a cohesive well drilled team that can dominate lesser teams.

All this talk of other teams managing fine with multiple injuries and their ‘playing style’ being the same who ever is in the team (G Nev- MNF), seem to be forgetting Liverpool were without Van Dijk and a couple of others last season and it all went to shit for them.

Not an excuse just an observation.

Personally I think he deserves a chance next season with a proper footballing structure above/along side him.

Originally Posted by AK14

Personally I think he deserves a chance next season with a proper footballing structure above/along side him.

He does, after last season's success and this season's injuries and off field drama he should get next season at least.....

Great point about other teams, but a lot of people have bought into MNF, podcasts with the lads, Gary Neville and £#%&!ing Roy Keane having tea, carragher and his green screens, talk sport and narratives....


Footballs changed, on and off the pitch...

Yeah, hopefully the new structure will allow him to spend 2-300 million on players he wants.

And appoint right back room team to help him set the team up.

Originally Posted by Hyman_Roth

You’re right - Erik getting involved with transfers was beyond his remit. He should be concentrating on the areas that he’s been brought into look after and that he’s expert in - fitness, so our players are top of the tree in effort terms and avoid unnecessary injuries and tactics so we can perform as a cohesive well drilled team that can dominate lesser teams.

Just needs another season to get it right.

Originally Posted by believe

Yeah, hopefully the new structure will allow him to spend 2-300 million on players he wants.

Not voting, Bellers?