fergie haters- accept this challenge

in this thread i want you to write ALL the positives of having fergie as manager, since he came.

then write all the negatives.


nothing else, just thepos and the neg.

Of his successes or the advantages of him right now?

The way he nurtures young players.

Originally Posted by Argentina

Of his successes or the advantages of him right now?

all the pro's and cons since he became manager

Youth
Local players
Wing play
Trophies with flair

"fergie HATERS, post your pros AND cons

Pros-He sometimes wins games

Cons-He sometimes loses games

Originally Posted by Spiffy

His inability to manage stars. Beckham, Ruud, Keane etc
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Erm he managed Keane and Beckham for about 10 years each, during which United had their most succesful period in its history. I'd suggest as such thispoint isquite frankly bullshit.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

Erm he managed Keane and Beckham for about 10 years each, during which United had their most succesful period in its history. I'd suggest as such thispoint isquite frankly bullshit.

Id agree especially on the Keane front.I dont think any other manager in the world could have man managed Keane or Cantona like Fergie managed.

Also the way he protected Giggs,Scholes etc from the media when they first came on the scene was different class.

Oh and he also bought Rooney wich for me is our biggest coup.

Originally Posted by Skag Trendy

Oh and he also bought Rooney wich for me is our biggest coup.

Yes he did well to snatch him from the claws of Newcastle

And he did alright managing Eric...

Another pro - Fergie's ruthlessness - apart from Stam, he knows when to call time on players...

Originally Posted by forzagarza

Yes he did well to snatch him from the claws of Newcastle

Yeah cause there wouldnt have been a queue of top clubs bidding for him had we left it for another season.

Originally Posted by Skag Trendy

Yeah cause there wouldnt have been a queue of top clubs bidding for him had we left it for another season.

He handed in a transfer request and only wanted to sign for us. We paid £27M for him.

Originally Posted by Spiffy

only wanted to sign for us

Course he did

If we hadnt have bid then Chelsea would have come along the season and he woukld be playing for them.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

Erm he managed Keane and Beckham for about 10 years each, during which United had their most succesful period in its history. I'd suggest as such thispoint isquite frankly bullshit.

Have to agree. Beckham was a great Utd player until he bought into his own hype and prioritized England and publicity over Utd. Keane was kept for too long and retired 6 months later anyway, after savaging a group of players who look likely to land us the league this year. Ruud was a hindrance to progression in our style of play.

Beckham and Ruud were perfectly valid football decisions.

The Keane situation is one of Fergies failings. He gave him too much importance and failed to secure a qulaity replacement which left us structuring a team around Keane which held us back 2 years.

Originally Posted by Spiffy

His inablility to replace Keane.

He's irreplaceable.

Originally Posted by hughes......oh i say!

in this thread i want you to write ALL the positives of having fergie as manager, since he came.

then write all the negatives.


nothing else, just thepos and the neg.

He apologised to the Glazers for the behaviour of his own supporters.

Originally Posted by Johnson

He apologised to the Glazers for the behaviour of his own supporters.

that was bobby charlton

simply listing everything united have achieved under him would be a pretty pointless exercise, so i've tried to list his positive and negative qualities, as a manager.

pros
brilliant at nurturing youngsters
excellent man manager (on the whole)
focuses/d on building a club rather than just a team
has a winning mentality
gets the best out of potential problem players
good motivator
always defends his players in public
understands what manchester united means

cons
is still tactically inept compared to some other managers
occasionally loses focus on football matters
proved himself to be a hypocrite on several occasions
has let personal feelings sometimes impinge on what is best for the club
made several costly errors in the transfer market

to be honest the only valid reason people might dislike fergie was his backing of the Glazers which was at times a bit hard to stomach. I understand his reasons but I think he could've done it in a different manner - especially considering his supposed socialst sympathies.

That's the only slight damage to his persona IMO. He's still a great.