Renato Sanches

Arsed - he's just some £#%&!ing football manager hipster player anyway... Will be playing in the middle of far east before he's 30.

I ask you, has there ever been a world class player who had dreadlocks ffs.

Originally Posted by TheFatGoth

Arsed - he's just some £#%&!ing football manager hipster player anyway... Will be playing in the middle of far east before he's 30.

I ask you, has there ever been a world class player who had dreadlocks ffs.

Gullit, Davids....Jason Lee

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Klopp has been there since October, during which time they have climbed two places in the table.

Don't get me wrong, he's a better manager than Rodgers, but they finished 6th last season and are 8th now. The progress isn't stark.

Easy to forget they had some very good spells under Rodgers. When we went to Anfield last March everyone thought they'd beat us.

It's not just the position Rodgers had them in when Klopp took over, it's the resultant transition period that effected results too. That's not really on Rodgers' or Klopp's door imo, just the way it is.

I'm saying they're better NOW than last season - not that they've been better all season.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

We signed Angel Di Maria from Real Madrid with no European football on offer. Since then we signed Radamel Falcao and Bastian Schweinseiger. We are Manchester United and we have a lot of money. We might not beat Bayern Munich to the punch, but we'll still sign quality players. And any young player need only look at Martial to see LvG is still a master of young talent.

stop this.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

We signed Angel Di Maria from Real Madrid with no European football on offer. Since then we signed Radamel Falcao and Bastian Schweinseiger. We are Manchester United and we have a lot of money. We might not beat Bayern Munich to the punch, but we'll still sign quality players. And any young player need only look at Martial to see LvG is still a master of young talent.

Di Maria a) didn't want to leave Madrid, and b) wanted to sign for PSG from the get go. Wow, that was a real recipe for success huh?

Originally Posted by utd99

Teams are doing their business now. We can't even tell the players we want who's going to be the next £#%&!ing manager and when. Would you go to a team if you didn't know who you were going to be playing for? Maybe some will, but they will be the second tier players, not the ones with the most choice.

The player himself has been quoted saying it was his choice...the other is a plodding defender going back to his club...

Who are the other teams doing all their business NOW please ?

Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

Don't be daft, no amount of support could have saved Moyes, he was always known as dithering Dave. In fact, much of our problems now stem from his reign, the entire idea of transitioning from Fergie to new management while remaining as challengers was completely £#%&!ed up by Moyes, we lost an entire season of rebuilding with that gobshite.

Liked

Originally Posted by Grimson

It's not just the position Rodgers had them in when Klopp took over, it's the resultant transition period that effected results too. That's not really on Rodgers' or Klopp's door imo, just the way it is.

I'm saying they're better NOW than last season - not that they've been better all season.

They are better than they were. Still inconsistant of course, but you can see something going on, and it's with entirely inherited players; hasn't spent a penny yet. Our manager has almost completely overhauled in the squad in four windows and half the players he's recruited are either gone or almost write offs.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

The player himself has been quoted saying it was his choice...the other is a plodding defender going back to his club...

Who are the other teams doing all their business NOW please ?

Bayern Munich.

Originally Posted by utd99

Di Maria a) didn't want to leave Madrid, and b) wanted to sign for PSG from the get go. Wow, that was a real recipe for success huh?

No, but he still came. Doubt he'd have gone to Liverpool.

Van Gaal is an excellent identifier of talent, but he needs help from the club. So far our activity has smacked of lack of scouting.

I'd say every single signing bar Martial was one any fan could have made. Hopefully they've got their act together.

Originally Posted by utd99

They are better than they were. Still inconsistant of course, but you can see something going on, and it's with entirely inherited players; hasn't spent a penny yet. Our manager has almost completely overhauled in the squad in four windows and half the players he's recruited are either gone or almost write offs.



Bayern Munich.

It's may the 10th...get some perspective Ffs...

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

The player himself has been quoted saying it was his choice...the other is a plodding defender going back to his club...

Who are the other teams doing all their business NOW please ?

Are you seriously trying to suggest that Real Madrid, Barcelona, Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Bayern (clearly), PSG and the rest are not in negotiations with the agents of the players they have identified as we speak?

We can't even tell people who the £#%&!ing manager will be.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

It's may the 10th...get some perspective Ffs...

It's May the 10th and City and Chelsea have new managers and Bayern just signed two players we were interested in. What's your point?

Originally Posted by andyroo

Was he ever considered? When the Doc was appointed say, or after we had to sack him?

Didn't we try to get him when Sexton was tin tacked? I've definitely seen it claimed that Racist Ron was only our 4th choice then.......

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

No, but he still came. Doubt he'd have gone to Liverpool.

Van Gaal is an excellent identifier of talent, but he needs help from the club. So far our activity has smacked of lack of scouting.

I'd say every single signing bar Martial was one any fan could have made. Hopefully they've got their act together.

Scouting? Depay played for him and he has been atrocious.

Originally Posted by Grimson

It's not just the position Rodgers had them in when Klopp took over, it's the resultant transition period that effected results too. That's not really on Rodgers' or Klopp's door imo, just the way it is.

I'm saying they're better NOW than last season - not that they've been better all season.

They recently went three games without a win against Villarreal, Newcastle and Swansea.

Meanwhile when we went to Anfield last spring their record in the league over the previous few months was P: 13 W: 10 D: 3 L:0

They've reached nothing like that form this season. And they are set to finish lower in the league as a result.

Again, easy to forget they often hit very good runs under Rodgers.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

They recently went three games without a win against Villarreal, Newcastle and Swansea.

Meanwhile when we went to Anfield last spring their record in the league over the previous few months was P: 13 W: 10 D: 3 L:0

They've reached nothing like that form this season. And they are set to finish lower in the league as a result.

The shitness of the players Klopp has inherited is massively overstated on here, as is the quality of players LvG inherited/has...

Originally Posted by utd99

Are you seriously trying to suggest that Real Madrid, Barcelona, Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Bayern (clearly), PSG and the rest are not in negotiations with the agents of the players they have identified as we speak?

We can't even tell people who the £#%&!ing manager will be.



It's May the 10th and City and Chelsea have new managers and Bayern just signed two players we were interested in. What's your point?

So you don't think we've identified a single player or have had talks?

Originally Posted by utd99

Scouting? Depay played for him and he has been atrocious.

Except for getting us into the champions league. He has suffered badly from our own and his own poor form as well as Shaw being injured, they were a real force down that left hand side

New manager, new tactics and Shaw behind him and we will see a completely different player

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

They recently went three games without a win against Villarreal, Newcastle and Swansea.

Meanwhile when we went to Anfield last spring their record in the league over the previous few months was P: 13 W: 10 D: 3 L:0

They've reached nothing like that form this season. And they are set to finish lower in the league as a result.

And you can make stats imply whatever you want. Are you actually watching their games? They are better now than when he took over, of that there is no doubt, and that's without bringing any of his own players in. Just because we hate them - and now him by association-, and because we are compelled to defend our own manager, you can't ignore what's in front of your face.

Originally Posted by Jethro

So you don't think we've identified a single player or have had talks?

Nope, Big clubs are doing big business NOW.....

A city manager that might not have champions league and a Chelsea boss taking over a team that flirted 1 point from relegation who he's never seen more than 10 games...

Originally Posted by utd99

Scouting? Depay played for him and he has been atrocious.

Not sure what your point is. Signing Memphis hardly contradicts the notion that he had to identify his own players without scouting

Originally Posted by utd99

And you can make stats imply whatever you want. Are you actually watching their games? They are better now than when he took over, of that there is no doubt, and that's without bringing any of his own players in. Just because we hate them - and now him by association-, and because we are compelled to defend our own manager, you can't ignore what's in front of your face.

Well given that he took over when someone had been sacked, you'd hope so.

But they took 33 from 39 points under Rodgers last year before playing us. They aren't doing that now.

And yeah, I watched them against Dortmund. They were outplayed for 70 minutes until they won the game with set-pieces. Slow clap.