James McLean

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Don't then. It's your right. But don't expect the rest of us not to point out hypocrisy when we see it.

McLean comes from an area that will forever be identified with the events of Bloody Sunday, it's perfectly natural for him to (a) refuse to wear a poppy commemorating the murderers who rampaged through the area, and (b) refuse to respect the anthem praising the head of those murderers

I'd say he is a man of honour

#GSTQ

#SupportTheTroops

#OurBoys

#Heroes

Originally Posted by forzagarza

Give James McLean coracaos wages

Not got a clue as to what that is even supposed to mean.

Originally Posted by Coracao

Not got a clue as to what that is even supposed to mean.

I think it's a reference to the "soldiers only get paid x and footballers get paid y. Soldiers are HEROES, not footballers" shit that twitter #@&%!s come out with

Originally Posted by 20 times

I think it's a reference to the "soldiers only get paid x and footballers get paid y. Soldiers are HEROES, not footballers" shit that twitter #@&%!s come out with

Pay isn't that bad tbf.

Originally Posted by no fun

McLean comes from an area that will forever be identified with the events of Bloody Sunday, it's perfectly natural for him to (a) refuse to wear a poppy commemorating the murderers who rampaged through the area, and (b) refuse to respect the anthem praising the head of those murderers

I'd say he is a man of honour

I couldn't give a shit where he comes from. It's where he is now that's the issue. He was obviously happy to move to England and be employed by an English club, pay his tax to an English government.

Where is his 'honour' and moral principles when he collects his £20k a week wages with a big HM tax and revenues deduction on the payslip?

I've got no time for any of it. The tedious glorification of our military post 9/11 or the moral posturing of people who thought that cowardly murder of civilians was an appropriate response to cowardly murder by soldiers.

Maybe he's atheist and that's why he's not arsed about God Save the Queen.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Don't care that he didn't sing the national anthem tbh. I don't like it myself, think it's shit.

However he obviously has a big problem with this country from refusing to have a poppy on his kit to this kind of pointless gesture in a pre season friendly .

If you're going to be a moral crusader it's probably best if you aren't happy to collect 'blood stained' pounds with pictures of your oppressors printed on the front.

i think he's got a big problem with britain's history, not the country in general. the poppy and anthem are part of that history and that's what he's making a stand against, which is understandable imo when you consider where he was brought up.

it takes guts to do what he has done, especially when he knows he is going to get criticism and death threats from the usual bigoted little englanders.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

I couldn't give a shit where he comes from. It's where he is now that's the issue. He was obviously happy to move to England and be employed by an English club, pay his tax to an English government.

Where is his 'honour' and moral principles when he collects his £20k a week wages with a big HM tax and revenues deduction on the payslip?

I've got no time for any of it. The tedious glorification of our military post 9/11 or the moral posturing of people who thought that cowardly murder of civilians was an appropriate response to cowardly murder by soldiers.

That doesn't hold up pal

If he'd stayed in Derry stacking shelves in his local tescos he would still be paying tax to HM govt, so as a pro footballer he just pays more

I've been to where he comes from several times...the locals are not particularly anti English per se, but they do hate the British military and their masters, and with some justification

Trust me, if he wore a poppy or sang GSTQ he would not be welcome back home

superb

Everyone should turn their backs on that £#%&!ing forelock-tugging pile of shite.

Originally Posted by Jack Duckworth

if he was telling a black england player to £#%&! off back to his own country for not singing the national anthem, would it be tolerated?

you're a racist, son.

This. Sparky hates the Irish for some reason. Sad to see if I am honest as he comes across as a quite pleasant chap.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

I couldn't give a shit where he comes from. It's where he is now that's the issue. He was obviously happy to move to England and be employed by an English club, pay his tax to an English government.

Where is his 'honour' and moral principles when he collects his £20k a week wages with a big HM tax and revenues deduction on the payslip?

I've got no time for any of it. The tedious glorification of our military post 9/11 or the moral posturing of people who thought that cowardly murder of civilians was an appropriate response to cowardly murder by soldiers.

Are you saying anyone who pays tax has to support the monarchy and military?

Seriously?

Originally Posted by elephantstone

This. Sparky hates the Irish for some reason. Sad to see if I am honest as he comes across as a quite pleasant chap.

Nonsense, the analogy provided doesn't even make any sense.

Why would he tell an English player to £#%&! off to his own country? The bloke he's talking about IS a foreigner and has a beef with the country that pays him.

Originally Posted by Big Norm

Are you saying anyone who pays tax has to support the monarchy and military?

Seriously?

Anyone who pays tax is supporting the monarchy and the military...

Originally Posted by Big Norm

Are you saying anyone who pays tax has to support the monarchy and military?

Seriously?

They are supporting them. That's the whole concept of tax.

Originally Posted by elephantstone

This. Sparky hates the Irish for some reason. Sad to see if I am honest as he comes across as a quite pleasant chap.

I don't hate my mother, uncles, aunts, cousins, grandparents etc etc.

I don't however have time for hypocritical moral crusaders.

He will be barring the Irish from his cab soon. Probably do some kind of Irish knowledge test before they attempt to get in.

This cab does not go to Kilburn or cricklewood

Originally Posted by Big Norm

Are you saying anyone who pays tax has to support the monarchy and military?

Seriously?

They don't call it HM revenue and customs for nothing

Originally Posted by guerreiro

Nonsense, the analogy provided doesn't even make any sense.

Why would he tell an English player to £#%&! off to his own country? The bloke he's talking about IS a foreigner and has a beef with the country that pays him.

Anyone would think he gave a nazi salute. He lives in an occupied country.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

They are supporting them. That's the whole concept of tax.

Financially yes, not through choice btw. Does that mean I have to wear a poppy and sing GSTQ?