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Unread 31-12-2017, 03:14 PM
Wellinever
 
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They seem to get better as we got worse? The only thing being, luckily for us, they were as weak in front of goal as we were.
It was for us the 'same old same old', cant take a decent corner, losing the ball in wrong areas too easily, wanting ball to feet all the time, no idea how to launch an attack from a mid-field free kick position, reactions in front of goal terrible, now even Rashford trying to change feet before taking advantage of a snap-shot opportunity.
What sort of training do they do between matches?
 
Unread 31-12-2017, 03:22 PM
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Yes. If ‘try’ is good enough these days then God bless you. Standard is not about how hard you try, it’s about how good you are and what you actually do. Van Gaal tried. Cleverley tried. Darron Gibson tried. You lower your standards so that the likes of those can meet them we are truly f***ed
Don't forget the classic: "he puts in a shift for the team"

Like 99% of shit footballers don't do that already.
 
Unread 31-12-2017, 03:32 PM
dunk
 
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Don't forget the classic: "he puts in a shift for the team"

Like 99% of shit footballers don't do that already.
Shame some of the good ones don’t..
 
Unread 31-12-2017, 03:40 PM
LFOD
 
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Shame some of the good ones don’t..
this - if our best played like they were playing for their next contract we'd be 2nd but closer to city. they don't we aren't.
 
Unread 31-12-2017, 03:40 PM
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Mourinho’s PSG comments still stick in my throat, l think the rot set in then. What kind of message did that send to the players and fans. He’s been a complete smacked arse ever since he’s been here, and his continued surliness on the touch line isn’t inspiring anyone other than the opposition.
 
Unread 31-12-2017, 03:41 PM
dunk
 
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Mourinho’s PSG comments still stick in my throat, l think the rot set in then. What kind of message did that send to the players and fans. He’s been a complete smacked arse ever since he’s been here, and his continued surliness on the touch line isn’t inspiring anyone other than the opposition.
The man is a @#%&! and we knew it before we appointed him.
 
Unread 31-12-2017, 03:42 PM
LFOD
 
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Mourinho’s PSG comments still stick in my throat, l think the rot set in then. What kind of message did that send to the players and fans. He’s been a complete smacked arse ever since he’s been here, and his continued surliness on the touch line isn’t inspiring anyone other than the opposition.
nah the rot was here since fergie said "i'm off". the players stopped listening to moyes day 1 , LVG after about 15 months and now it's jose turn. loads of malcontents on this team. jose's 4 years too late.
 
Unread 31-12-2017, 04:23 PM
red in cumbria
 
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Don't tell me the reactions to this draw are warranted ffs.
It was one of the very worst games we've had under JM, tbf. People are bound to be a bit upset.
 
Unread 31-12-2017, 04:29 PM
LFOD
 
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It was one of the very worst games we've had under JM, tbf. People are bound to be a bit upset.
the culmination of shit football - the best we've played lately is when we've fallen behind and had to go for it. we should be going for it from the start. we moaned about it being pogba out , since he's returned we've lost 1 drew 3. and he's our captain and most probably our best outfield player. 0-0 at home to any side is cause for being upset , to soton , the way they've played , not acceptable.
 
Unread 31-12-2017, 04:59 PM
red in cumbria
 
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not acceptable
Yes, that is the bottom line.
 
Unread 31-12-2017, 05:18 PM
Red Al
 
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Mourinho’s PSG comments still stick in my throat, l think the rot set in then. What kind of message did that send to the players and fans. He’s been a complete smacked arse ever since he’s been here, and his continued surliness on the touch line isn’t inspiring anyone other than the opposition.

This
 
Unread 31-12-2017, 06:32 PM
Alex Jones was Right
 
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Similar to Mourinho's earlier successes having no relevance to the football we are seeing at the moment. Whatever he had, it isn't working now.

Something very wrong at the club. Not sure how long we can persist with the "shit@#%&!s" argument. Just look at the teams we are failing to beat.
Whatever Ferguson had at Aberdeen it wasn’t working 4 years into the job at united.

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Correct. There’s only one song we should be singing right now and it’s ‘Not good enough.’ The only thing people like Lingard -and not only him- should be getting is a p45. This cannot be the new United standard. The moment we accept this it becomes our new reality. Right now we’re on the brink of doing exactly what we did last year but without the trophies to excuse it.

Did we learn nothing from Liverpool’s standards dropping from Souness, Hanson and Rush to Ruddock, Jimmy Carter and Paul Walsh? But yeah, sing us into oblivion... It’s £#%&!ing shit.
Lingard is the kind of squad player fergie’s success was built on. He isn’t an issue. The players who should be in the team ahead of him are.
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