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Unread 07-01-2014, 01:04 AM
thatsfuctit
 
Default Ollie Holt - why the glazers are to blame

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In his first midweek column, Dave Kidd expects green and gold scarves to be back in fashion at Old Trafford now Fergie's brilliance isn't there to cover up the cracks

After Wilfried Bony headed Swansea’s winner at Old Trafford, the TV cameras picked out a couple of Manchester United supporters with green-and-gold scarves.

The outside-broadcast director would have had to search hard for them. The ‘Love United, Hate Glazer’ campaign has been quiet of late.

Sir Alex Ferguson may be a socialist, but his managerial brilliance and outspoken backing of Malcolm Glazer’s ownership propped up a regime built on the worst of big-business practice.

Now, without Fergie and with United reduced to mortals, Glazer and his sons Joel and Avram ought to be manning the barricades.

A whopping £220million has been wiped off champions United’s stock market value in the past month.

And even after the loss of the greatest manager in British football history, no one could have envisaged a team which won the title by 11 points failing to qualify for the Champions League the following season.

So, insufficient plans are in place for the financial black hole which will appear should United finish outside the top four.

Yet when Swansea, on the back of a seven-match winless run, can roll up at Old Trafford with such confidence, book-ending their FA Cup third-round win with high-quality-goals, then the Theatre of Dreams becomes a stage for kitchen-sink realism.

‘You’re not famous any more,’ sang the Swansea fans – and every visiting team knows it.

Four home defeats in 32 days, a habit not easily broken.


Once Champions League status is lost, it is not easily regained (a point made here by Mirror chief football writer Martin Lipton).

The money dries up, world-class players such as Wayne Rooney and Robin van Persie (perhaps United’s only two) begin to question their futures. The world’s best players care little for a club’s history - Liverpool had won more titles and European Cups than United when they slipped out of the elite.

So January is critical for David Moyes. Business can be done in the mid-season window, but prices are on the laughable side of crazy.

Do the Glazers have the cash to make a marquee signing – or are they in tented-village territory? Are they willing to back Moyes’ judgment? Back him to identify a player or two who can transform a maudlin atmosphere? Back him to choose a January signing who will not become a £50m Fernando Torres or a £35m Andy Carroll?

Because that is the sort of gamble required – and unlike so many high-profile January punts, it will need to succeed.

Even during the six-match winning streak which preceded home defeats by Spurs and Swansea, United simply did not look like United.

They were outplayed in winning at Norwich on December 28, a performance remarkable only for its lack of ambition and persistent time-wasting. Nobody at Carrow Road was fooled that United were back.

And unless things improve rapidly, guns will be retrained on the Glazers.


People power: Fans protest when anti-Glazer feeling was at its height
When the green-and-gold masses dominated three or four years ago, they were often told they did not understand high-finance. Yet they knew enough.

It was rank-and-file football fans and their like who suffered most after the banking collapse. They know that colossal debts and huge interest payments are a high-risk strategy in football as in life.

Sir Alex’s genius obscured these fears. Without him, United lack aura and the self-confidence to swing into action with machetes between their lips.

Investment had dipped well before his retirement. Van Persie’s signing was a masterstroke last term but it wallpapered over midfield cracks.

Paul Scholes was never replaced. Ryan Giggs is 40 and fading. Paul Pogba was allowed to join Juventus on a free. United’s widemen dive where they once thrived.

Anyone who cares about British coaches and managers should want Moyes to turn this around, so it must be acknowledged that his inheritance was not all it might have been.

The Glazers’ ownership is to blame.

Scarves at the ready
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 01:07 AM
ZiggyStardust
 
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Scarves at the ready
Yeah that'll show 'em
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 01:10 AM
jem
 
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ollie kay similar comments in the times.

wonder how many pints they all had.
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 01:10 AM
rebelcountyred
 
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You would think the gimps only pitched up recently with the number of articles saying (correctly) that they are at the heart of the problem. Bit late to the party eh?
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 01:13 AM
DakotaFredsBigShoe
 
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Why am I supposed to give a shit that we have a British manager?
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 01:14 AM
VodkaAndCoke
 
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You would think the gimps only pitched up recently with the number of articles saying (correctly) that they are at the heart of the problem. Bit late to the party eh?
Fergie saying they were great owners and racking up trophies masked the issue for the idiots. Everyone with a brain knew what was happening.
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 01:15 AM
RedMenace
 
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Is Ollie Holt calling himself Dave Kidd now? Wouldn't surprise me with him.
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 01:15 AM
Serenity Now
 
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United’s widemen dive where they once thrived.
Someone actually wrote this in a newspaper article?
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 01:15 AM
Sparky***
 
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Mind blowing stuff there.
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 01:31 AM
Tumescent Throb
 
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could have sworn spanish dave was world class
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 01:33 AM
Nani
 
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The only good that can come of the Moyes era is that we're that shit it forces them to sell up. Or even better, we go REALLY shit, JCLs £#%&! off, Glazers £#%&! off and the fans get some sort of ownership. Well worth a few years of pain IMO.
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 01:36 AM
Tumescent Throb
 
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The only good that can come of the Moyes era is that we're that shit it forces them to sell up. Or even better, we go REALLY shit, JCLs £#%&! off, Glazers £#%&! off and the fans get some sort of ownership. Well worth a few years of pain IMO.
if all the JCL's "£#%&! off" then when do you propose letting them back in?
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 01:37 AM
92ToBury
 
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Roll up and pay the Glazers £40 to tell them they're @#%&!s.
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 01:37 AM
Charlestown Rouge
 
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The only good that can come of the Moyes era is that we're that shit it forces them to sell up. Or even better, we go REALLY shit, JCLs £#%&! off, Glazers £#%&! off and the fans get some sort of ownership. Well worth a few years of pain IMO.
Oh. Dear.
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 01:41 AM
Jack Duckworth
 
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2005 called...
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 01:43 AM
Nani
 
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if all the JCL's "£#%&! off" then when do you propose letting them back in?
I don't think anyone needs to be concerned about that for a few years.
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 01:47 AM
Tumescent Throb
 
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I don't think anyone needs to be concerned about that for a few years.
well obviously, the current fanbase isn't going to all die straight away
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 04:16 AM
believe
 
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called this two days ago tbf.

WHEN WILL THEM BASTARDS GIVE US SOME MONEY??!!!!
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 07:55 AM
jem
 
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Originally Posted by Nani
The only good that can come of the Moyes era is that we're that shit it forces them to sell up. Or even better, we go REALLY shit, JCLs £#%&! off, Glazers £#%&! off and the fans get some sort of ownership. Well worth a few years of pain IMO.
I'm in tears. fans have all the power. however, it doesn't matter how shit the football and results are under moyes, they will continue to act like eloi heading underground.

still.....

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called this two days ago tbf.

WHEN WILL THEM BASTARDS GIVE US SOME MONEY??!!!!
:0)
 
Unread 07-01-2014, 09:06 AM
BryanRobson'sLiver
 
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I'm looking forward to Ollie Holt breaking his next exclusive about the alfresco toiletary habits of bears.
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