England v Brazil 23/03

Exactly what we need at Manchester United.

Midfield was ok. Forward line was absolutely shite. Watkins spent the entire game running away from the goal and nobody else even bothered to get into the area.

Classic Southgate

still, good news about top gun maverick

Keep that clown Southgate away from Utd job, however should be targeting Nagelsmann though looking at Germany tonight

https://x.com/unitedstandmufc/status/1771645848666988838?s=46&t=46osAsCMaSbh7vgQsN2lEQ

Absolutely pizzazz.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Midfield was ok. Forward line was absolutely shite. Watkins spent the entire game running away from the goal and nobody else even bothered to get into the area.

Classic Southgate

Watkins is not an international footballer ffs. Chilwell same. Dunk even worse. Lots of utter shite still in this England squad.

Originally Posted by Offerington

Watkins is not an international footballer ffs. Chilwell same. Dunk even worse. Lots of utter shite still in this England squad.

Get past the first choice lot and it's not great. I think it was around the 85th minute, they're losing 1-0 at home in a friendly, Rashford has the ball wide looks up and there's one player in the box vs about 6 brazil defenders. That, to me, sums england up under southgate - cautious to a fault. In a £#%&!ing friendly.

If Harry Kane gets injured around a major tournament, England are £#%&!ed because aside from Bellingham there was absolutely nobody making runs into the box.

Still it was interesting to see this modern Brazil side cast off the old image of Joyful, skilful, joga bonito style and fully embrace their south american shithouse side, rack up 20 odd cynical fouls with one yellow card to show for them

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Get past the first choice lot and it's not great. I think it was around the 85th minute, they're losing 1-0 at home in a friendly, Rashford has the ball wide looks up and there's one player in the box vs about 6 brazil defenders. That, to me, sums england up under southgate - cautious to a fault. In a £#%&!ing friendly.

If Harry Kane gets injured around a major tournament, England are £#%&!ed because aside from Bellingham there was absolutely nobody making runs into the box.

Still it was interesting to see this modern Brazil side cast off the old image of Joyful, skilful, joga bonito style and fully embrace their south american shithouse side, rack up 20 odd cynical fouls with one yellow card to show for them

Spot on as per mate

that's why I don't fully buy the "Southgate has underachieved" narrative. the squad has always tended to have an uneven distribution of talent. currently its thin at GK, LB, CB, and to a lesser extent CM and CF.

Originally Posted by pedr0

that's why I don't fully buy the "Southgate has underachieved" narrative. the squad has always tended to have an uneven distribution of talent. currently its thin at GK, LB, CB, and to a lesser extent CM and CF.

It's comparative to the opposition and his ballsiing up of the most favourable draws imaginable.

Originally Posted by pedr0

currently its thin at GK, LB, CB, and to a lesser extent CM and CF.

That's balls tbf. The sqaud includes the first team and even outside of that, he has a huge range of top quality to choose from.

Originally Posted by Coracao

It's comparative to the opposition and his ballsiing up of the most favourable draws imaginable.

Yep. I’ve mentioned it a million times on here but that final against Italy, England were in control midway through the second half and Rice was covering absolutely everything. What did Southgate do? Took Rice off and left Kalvin Philips on, and from then on England were on the back foot. That sub there lost them that final imo. He’s a crap manager.

If England haven't got a better goalkeeper than Pickford they'd better pack it in now. The midget has been stuck at Everton for years, mid table clubs wouldn't take him. For all the goalkeeping aficionados out there watch Peter Shilton in the penalty shootout from Italia 90. He moves before every one, dives the right way for every one and doesn't get near any of 'em. It looks like they've dragged him out of the pub. Anyway I digress, Pickford is shit.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Still it was interesting to see this modern Brazil side cast off the old image of Joyful, skilful, joga bonito style and fully embrace their south american shithouse side, rack up 20 odd cynical fouls with one yellow card to show for them

It's almost 50 years since a brazil side tried playing football. (82)

Originally Posted by Msgr A Brook

If England haven't got a better goalkeeper than Pickford they'd better pack it in now. The midget has been stuck at Everton for years, mid table clubs wouldn't take him. For all the goalkeeping aficionados out there watch Peter Shilton in the penalty shootout from Italia 90. He moves before every one, dives the right way for every one and doesn't get near any of 'em. It looks like they've dragged him out of the pub. Anyway I digress, Pickford is shit.

He’s standard England fare. Played a couple of good games some time back, won plaudits for them in the media, ergo irreplaceable.

Originally Posted by Msgr A Brook

If England haven't got a better goalkeeper than Pickford they'd better pack it in now. The midget has been stuck at Everton for years, mid table clubs wouldn't take him. For all the goalkeeping aficionados out there watch Peter Shilton in the penalty shootout from Italia 90. He moves before every one, dives the right way for every one and doesn't get near any of 'em. It looks like they've dragged him out of the pub. Anyway I digress, Pickford is shit.

This is the worst group of English keepers in my lifetime. Comfortably too. In fact, the standards of keepers is pretty shit IMO. This obsession with playing out from the back and keepers being like outfield players distracts from tjs fact that most of them aren’t very good.

Arsenal have two midget trying to out-shit each other. Ederson is one of the most overrated keepers of the last ten years, Pickford is like Scrappy Doo because he needs to be and Alison, although the best of a bad bunch, isn’t a patch on the great premier league keepers. Obviously Liverpool fans think he’s the best of all time

England have the best squad in the world by a distance.

#@&%! manager who just hopes to win games through attrition.

Originally Posted by armchair

England have the best squad in the world by a distance.

#@&%! manager who just hopes to win games through attrition.

Oooh, the boss on here doesn’t like you using this word.

Err, hang on…

I don't like to use the r-word. I get that parents of special needs kids find it offensive. I don't think it's used in the same way but who are we asking to understand the nuance?