New contract for the special one, the one and only one!

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Good thing the Big Man has the record of the highest win rate of any manager in the CL to fall back on

Shame to see the resentment despite him having delivered the biggest trophy and highest league position since Fergie. Modern fans

No resentment from me Siders. Just pointing out that he didn’t do so well in Europe.

Loved that FA Cup win though

Originally Posted by browser

Agree with all of that. You do need to consider that Lukaku is still settling in and deserves more time to do so. It's a big step up playing every week for a club like United. And also worth mentioning that the players that we rely upon for a lot of our spark (Rashford, Martial, Lingard, Pogba) have all been inconsistent, hence the patchy form in an attacking sense. They'll all continue to improve though. Sanchez would hopefully add some consistency in terms of performance levels

The production from Rashford/Martial/Lingard/Pogba looks good purely through numbers;

Rashford, 9 goals, 8 assists in 34 games
Pogba, 3 goals, 13 assists in 19 games
Martial, 10 goals, 10 assists in 31 games
Lingard 11 goals, 5 assists in 28 games

Those are solid numbers and you have to take into account that Rashford, Martial and Lingard have rotated, came off the bench a lot. You are not wrong to say they have been inconsistent though. As Siders says there is no midtable, means a lot of dross to pad the stats against, and for the teams at the top of the table not much competition at all. Makes these comparison against previous seasons worth very little.

Sanchez's stats? 9 goals and 3 assists in 27 games, would be our least productive attacker.

Originally Posted by Clarkie

Think it's born out posters' love of the great man tbh. Need to restore the balance

I dunno. When it’s said that he needs to challenge for league next year, I’m expecting responses along the lines of “course he will; we will be flying by then” etc. Yet it’s just excuses and cheap shots at his footballing father.

Suggests that the confidence in José may not run as deep as portrayed; that there’s uncertainty there

Well, technically, we are challenging for the league right now

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Are you disagreeing with me that we don’t need to challenge next year?

Our current points average would see us finish six points behind Chelsea last season btw.

So by challenging you mean winning it.

Originally Posted by Tiberian

The production from Rashford/Martial/Lingard/Pogba looks good purely through numbers;

Rashford, 9 goals, 8 assists in 34 games
Pogba, 3 goals, 13 assists in 19 games
Martial, 10 goals, 10 assists in 31 games
Pogba, 17 goals, 5 assists in 32 games
Lingard 11 goals, 5 assists in 28 games

Those are solid numbers and you have to take into account that Rashford, Martial and Lingard have rotated, came off the bench a lot. You are not wrong to say they have been inconsistent though. As Siders says there is no midtable, means a lot of dross to pad the stats against, and for the teams at the top of the table not much competition at all. Makes these comparison against previous seasons worth very little.

Sanchez's stats? 9 goals and 3 assists in 27 games, would be our least productive attacker.

Sanchez hasn’t been arsed.

The latest absolute £#%&! up by Arsenal. Guess they thought in a World Cup year he’d do a Suárez and give his all, maybe firing them to top four. Instead Chile got knocked out, he’s often downed tools, the Arsenal players hate him and if he doesn’t go this January they’ve lost out on £50m and paid his wages for a year for no return.

And their board will still believe Wenger is a money maker.

Originally Posted by Tiberian

The production from Rashford/Martial/Lingard/Pogba looks good purely through numbers;

Rashford, 9 goals, 8 assists in 34 games
Pogba, 3 goals, 13 assists in 19 games
Martial, 10 goals, 10 assists in 31 games
Lingard 11 goals, 5 assists in 28 games

Those are solid numbers and you have to take into account that Rashford, Martial and Lingard have rotated, came off the bench a lot. You are not wrong to say they have been inconsistent though. As Siders says there is no midtable, means a lot of dross to pad the stats against, and for the teams at the top of the table not much competition at all. Makes these comparison against previous seasons worth very little.

Sanchez's stats? 9 goals and 3 assists in 27 games, would be our least productive attacker.

Stats

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Sanchez hasn’t been arsed.

The latest absolute f*** up by Arsenal. Guess they thought in a World Cup year he’d do a Suárez and give his all, maybe firing them to top four. Instead Chile got knocked out, he’s often downed tools, the Arsenal players hate him and if he doesn’t go this January they’ve lost out on £50m and paid his wages for a year for no return.

And their board will still believe Wenger is a money maker.

It is at the stage where I am not even sure a change of manager can do the trick for them. Could change the atmosphere around the club, which is utterly toxic but there is so little remaining to build around. Says something that Wilshere is back to being their touchstone.

Sanchez at Utd, either going to be short term spectacular success or a meltdown. Should be entertaining either way.

Originally Posted by Tiberian

It is at the stage where I am not even sure a change of manager can do the trick for them. Could change the atmosphere around the club, which is utterly toxic but there is so little remaining to build around. Says something that Wilshere is back to being their touchstone.

Sanchez at Utd, either going to be short term spectacular success or a meltdown. Should be entertaining either way.

Their squad without Sanchez and Ozil is utterly dreadful.

Need a huge overhaul. Few fans I know want Simeone purely because they think he can impose himself and rebuild a team quickly, however ugly it could be.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Their squad without Sanchez and Ozil is utterly dreadful.

Need a huge overhaul. Few fans I know want Simeone purely because they think he can impose himself and rebuild a team quickly, however ugly it could be.

Arsenal not the prospect they were for a manager are they? Would Simeone take it? Would surely want guarantees on investment and a massive initial push.

Originally Posted by Tiberian

Arsenal not the prospect they were for a manager are they? Would Simeone take it? Would surely want guarantees on investment and a massive initial push.

If they changed now he’d get the kind of money he’d need.

But apparently they are giving Wenger a shitload to spend now and in the summer. Can’t go wrong.

Who knows, Simeone could have the glory days of "One-Nil to the Arsenal" back again

Be on 5 and 22 and 13 by the time he goes

2nd place behind this ridiculous city side, on course to comfortably seal top four, after winning two trophies in his first season including a european cup, but a smattering of bad results this season and people think jose isn't cut out for the job. and then there are those who talk like we've been just as bad as moyes and van gaal under him.

it's blatantly obvious that he has improved us a lot. as low as our standards may have dropped over the past four or five years but this is the best we have been since fergie. he is the man for the job.

and we will win number 21 under him. nfqat.

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Who knows, Simeone could have the glory days of "One-Nil to the Arsenal" back again

imagine... mourinho at united and simeone at arsenal. whilst city and liverpool play all the football.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Good thing the Big Man has the record of the highest win rate of any manager in the CL to fall back on

I for one am delighted he had a great CL record at every club he was at except, you know, ours

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Who knows, Simeone could have the glory days of "One-Nil to the Arsenal" back again

Never happened you liar. They invented attacking football.

Originally Posted by MagnificentSeven

2nd place behind this ridiculous city side, on course to comfortably seal top four, after winning two trophies in his first season including a european cup, but a smattering of bad results this season and people think jose isn't cut out for the job. and then there are those who talk like we've been just as bad as moyes and van gaal under him.

it's blatantly obvious that he has improved us a lot. as low as our standards may have dropped over the past four or five years but this is the best we have been since fergie. he is the man for the job.

and we will win number 21 under him. nfqat.

Agree 100% but...’a european cup’. Come on

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

I for one am delighted he had a great CL record at every club he was at except, you know, ours

Tbf, the tears caused by our worst ever showing in the champions league were quickly overcome when I imagined what it must have been like to be a Barca fan in 1998. The stuff (literally) of dreams.

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

I for one am delighted he had a great CL record at every club he was at except, you know, ours

Am genuinely happy for him tbf

Almost as if it may have been our injury ravaged squad that was the real issue.