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It's all well and good pointing out where we were a few weeks ago, but football is cruel and changes quickly. And our change has been quite alarming. It's not just the results, it's the manner of them and how costly they jabr been. We look done under this manager. For various reasons. |
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It's almost like we were too self aware to say, £#%&! it, we're the biggest Club in world football. There's no way we're relinquishing that position. We want the best manager available. We're so used to being called glory hunters etc.. that maybe we all secretly fancied a few years of paying our dues, but it was a catastrophic mistake by the Club. We went from being feared & arrogant £#%&!ers to a laughing stock almost overnight. Moyes talking about "getting used" to losing games & aspiring to be like City - when we were reigning Champions We've never recovered. Van Gaal would have my full support if he didn't pick Fellaini every @#%&!ing week. |
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That slowed in Fergie's later years and we became very pragmatic and functionally effective. I do agree that people are full of shit when it comes to "I'd rather lose playing well that win playing dull" No you wouldn't. If you did, you'd have enjoyed the Wolfsburg game. Very attacking, very entertaining game. |
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That's the sympathy I've always had for Moyes: he had Woodward in his first summer and he totally £#%&!ed him. Awful summer with all the Fabregas, thiago shit. He needed someone experienced like Gill onside. |
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I don't demand a 4-2 every week (you can't beat a tight 0-1 in a Title campaign, late April nerve shredder) but we don't look like scoring at all in any game, never mind actually rattling 3 or 4 in & entertaining in the process. If Van Gaal stays I just don't see any signs of this changing. |
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Hoped we would react to the week, but expected an insipid defeat and we got it. A disapproving, barely-visible shake of the head at the first goal was about as emotive as I got. Spent most of the second half posting on here. |
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It has a knock-on effect in terms of the opposition too. Teams LOVE playing us now. Look at Stoke today. £#%&!ing flew at us and knew damn well it'd work. Going for 3s and 4s when they could sense blood. Still a big enough scalp to be noteworthy, but shit enough to beat. |
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I was gutted watching it tbh. Because it's not Moyes. This is us collapsing under a great coach, who at one stage promised so much. I found it tough going to watch. As mentioned, when it reached the hour my cousin and I couldn't help remembering when that seemed plenty of time. With this United we needed a goal before half time to have a vague hope of a draw.
No getting away from the fact we just don't have goalscorers anymore. United had scored 6 goals in 12 games before cantona arrived in '93 with us halfway down the table and won us the title. From that momen Fergie adopted the principle that he could never have too many goalscorers. We rely on a 19/20 year old French kid who most hadn't heard of four months ago |
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We're a huge animal. It's not a popular dynamic in this country, but we'd be better off with a director of football or something. Woodward is a dolt and you've got sentimental former players in their 70s who have far too much influence on how the club is run. The idea of either of those two making big decisions that determine our future terrifies me. Meanwhile on the bench, we've got another ex-player as a number two angling for the main job while all his mates are pundits slagging us off (rightly or wrongly ). It's £#%&!ed up and the structure is a mess. It galls me that Moyes and lvg will be getting binned while Woodward continues to underwhelm and oversee this massive £#%&! up of a transition. He needs to go to. I'd get rid of him and any new guy should bring in his own number two and staff. But, you know, not Steve round. |
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With the modern day footballer a one man subcontractor and young players already driving to work in £100000+ cars before they've even proved themselves. One of the worlds best managers has just been fired by player power and it looks like another one is to follow. |
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