Gary Neville Sacked By Valencia

Surely Sky won't take him back? How the £#%&! could anyone listen to him talk tactics and keep a straight face?

Silly boy.

Originally Posted by ashtonred

Surely Giggs will learn from this?
Maybe not - I've said it many times - Giggs is one arrogant piece of thick shit.
Sorry Ryan - I have my club's interest at heart - unlike you.

agree with you completely, but I have a feeling the gimps would rather hire Giggs for a few million a year, than pay the going rate for Mourinho.

Originally Posted by Pop

Surely Sky won't take him back? How the £#%&! could anyone listen to him talk tactics and keep a straight face?

Silly boy.

new to sky pol?

Originally Posted by ziggyman17

agree with you completely, but I have a feeling the gimps would rather hire Giggs for a few million a year, than pay the going rate for Mourinho.

His 87th minute touchline antics, when we were well beat, did it for me.
What a snide #@&%! he is - if the gimps don't see that then God help our future.
Furthermore, if Ferguson and Charlton don't see through him and continue to support his cause - then 2 stands deserve to be renamed. Neither man deserve the privelages of United.

Originally Posted by ziggyman17

Talksport have a piece on it after the news and weather.........

i imagine you'd be familiar with their schedule

Originally Posted by Pop

Surely Sky won't take him back? How the £#%&! could anyone listen to him talk tactics and keep a straight face?

Silly boy.

Gary's a decent bloke with a lot of self respect and pride imo. I doubt he would return to SKY either through application or invitation.

He can't walk back into punditry straight away. No one will take him seriously after spending the best part of five years sitting on his high horse before going into management himself.

He should try and get a Championship job, maybe even Villa as even Fergie can't save that shower of shite from relegation. Do well to bring them back up next season and then people can write this Valencia experience off as exactly that - a bad experience that was doomed to fail as the £#%&!er couldn't speak the bloody language.

Originally Posted by Buck

He can't walk back into punditry straight away. No one will take him seriously after spending the best part of five years sitting on his high horse before going into management himself.

Makes using this as a reason to not go the Giggs route a little strange. 5 years out of the game on the day to day level, new country, while Giggs has been mentored and developed as an option while working in the environment. It would still be an extreme risk and very unlikely to give Giggs the job but there has been preparation towards it.

Find the outpouring of pleasure at Neville struggling more than a little odd, but then the surge of animosity towards the CO92 has been building.

Originally Posted by Tiberian

Makes using this as a reason to not go the Giggs route a little strange. 5 years out of the game on the day to day level, new country, while Giggs has been mentored and developed as an option while working in the environment. It would still be an extreme risk and very unlikely to give Giggs the job but there has been preparation towards it.

Find the outpouring of pleasure at Neville struggling more than a little odd, but then the surge of animosity towards the CO92 has been building.

My two cents on Giggs are that it's more down to him being a part of the decline having been here under Moyes and Van Gaal. We're looking at one failed regime and one failing regime. So why should Giggs be rewarded when he's the one constant between both regimes?

Originally Posted by Tiberian

Makes using this as a reason to not go the Giggs route a little strange. 5 years out of the game on the day to day level, new country, while Giggs has been mentored and developed as an option while working in the environment. It would still be an extreme risk and very unlikely to give Giggs the job but there has been preparation towards it.

Find the outpouring of pleasure at Neville struggling more than a little odd, but then the surge of animosity towards the CO92 has been building.

politics intit.

the narrative was always that a load of the players were unable to speak freely because they were on the payroll. as with so many '2 legs good' ideologies, the reality has proved very different and the narrative must therefore change accordingly...

Punditry is populated by failed managers ffs, not sure where the "he won't be taken seriously" crew are coming from.

He's a very good analyst, regardless of how he did as a manager. Sky would be crazy not to get him back.

Originally Posted by Buck

My two cents on Giggs are that it's more down to him being a part of the decline having been here under Moyes and Van Gaal. We're looking at one failed regime and one failing regime. So why should Giggs be rewarded when he's the one constant between both regimes?

Impossible to know how much of that is down to him. When was the last time we had a coach/assistant manager who was not viewed with deep suspicion? Kidd?

I am not saying Giggs should get the job, if we had progressed at originally hoped and he was taking over a team ready to go then he would have a batter chance, but as it is there is still extensive rebuilding needed and trusting a rookie coach with that task is probably a risk too far.

A better argument than his facial expressions on the bench, indiscretions in his private life or a few minutes of an edited documentary.

Originally Posted by Ethers

Punditry is populated by failed managers ffs, not sure where the "he won't be taken seriously" crew are coming from.

He's a very good analyst, regardless of how he did as a manager. Sky would be crazy not to get him back.

Totally agree on all points, but that doesn't mean he will be.

I think that people were surprised at how good Neville was. At least he's been a figure of humour for many inbreds and he's obviously united but he did his job very well. He's taken a job in management and not done very well and the opportunity to use the previous prejudices have been jumped on by abus straight away, this won't be unnoticed by Sky, albeit they did take him on in the first place

United are of course one of the reasons that Sky have made so much money from soccerball in this country

Originally Posted by Ethers

Punditry is populated by failed managers ffs, not sure where the "he won't be taken seriously" crew are coming from.

He's a very good analyst, regardless of how he did as a manager. Sky would be crazy not to get him back.

Of course they will, with the added bonus they can now have him on their spanish football show too.

Originally Posted by Buck

He can't walk back into punditry straight away. No one will take him seriously after spending the best part of five years sitting on his high horse before going into management himself.

He should try and get a Championship job, maybe even Villa as even Fergie can't save that shower of shite from relegation. Do well to bring them back up next season and then people can write this Valencia experience off as exactly that - a bad experience that was doomed to fail as the £#%&!er couldn't speak the bloody language.

The language barrier had nothing to do with it. Nowadays, the Spanish football ferternity have zero respect when it comes down to the abilty of English managers and players - who can blame them?
The Valencia fans where dismayed when Gary was appointed.
We are light years behind the game in every single capacity.
The PL is currently the most successful commercial commodity in world football - thanks to foreigners and the Taylor report.

Punditry and management are two very different horses. And it's unclear how much of his failure at Valencia was down to poor tactics, or more specifically, not understanding tactics - more likely to be a combination of many things, but mostly lack of experience with man management and using the right tactics for his playing squad.

He's an excellent pundit and if he went straight back into it, everyone bar a few no-date twitter trolls would forget about his time at Valencia within weeks.

Originally Posted by Grimson

He's an excellent pundit and if he went straight back into it, everyone bar a few no-date twitter trolls would forget about his time at Valencia within weeks.

You cannot be serious.
He would have to put up with "What the £#%&! does he know?"
Carragher would have a field day too irrespective of any prearranged conduct ruling instigated by SKY.
Just one solitary snide remark from that scouse @#%&! would see Gary reeling.
Our lad won't take that risk.

It's not about whether the viewers will accept him, it's about whether he'll feel confident returning to his old persona after this bad job.

Originally Posted by ashtonred

You cannot be serious.
He would have to put up with "What the £#%&! does he know?"
Carragher would have a field day too irrespective of any prearranged conduct ruling instigated by SKY.
Just one solitary snide remark from that scouse @#%&! would see Gary reeling.
Our lad won't take that risk.

At first, sure. Then people would forget about it. Carragher could only go to that well a couple of times.

This is what is actually going to happen, as you'll see when I bump this thread next season.

noticed he £#%&!ed off on england duty this week. doubt that went down well.

if he's smart he'll do a moyes and make out that this was a culturally enriching experience.