Jaap Stam

Zamorano was a massive handful, shows how good the utd defence was at the time.

One of Fergie's biggest mistakes getting rid. Was just £#%&!ing odd. So he called Gary Neville a busy @#%&!? He was bang on...

Originally Posted by windy waffles

One of Fergie's biggest mistakes getting rid. Was just £#%&!ing odd. So he called Gary Neville a busy @#%&!? He was bang on...

Can only think it was something massively personal, the way it happened so quickly as well, it was bizarre, selling one the best defenders in the world more or less overnight Never seen a better defensive partnership than him and Rio anywhere, ever.

Originally Posted by TripDownMiseryLane

Can only think it was something massively personal, the way it happened so quickly as well, it was bizarre, selling one the best defenders in the world more or less overnight Never seen a better defensive partnership than him and Rio anywhere, ever.

Are you being hypothetical?

Originally Posted by shenwen

Are you being hypothetical?

Don't understand the question

Originally Posted by TripDownMiseryLane

Can only think it was something massively personal, the way it happened so quickly as well, it was bizarre, selling one the best defenders in the world more or less overnight Never seen a better defensive partnership than him and Rio anywhere, ever.

Wasn’t it the book he released or something to do with a positive nandrolone test, or did that come later in his career?

Fergie said it was because he’d struggled with an Achilles injury and both he and McClaren thought he’d lost speed and was on his way out… he’s since admitted it was a mistake to sell him.

Also Rio came after Jaap.

Originally Posted by AK14

Wasn’t it the book he released or something to do with a positive nandrolone test, or did that come later in his career?

Fergie said it was because he’d struggled with an Achilles injury and both he and McClaren thought he’d lost speed and was on his way out… he’s since admitted it was a mistake to sell him.

Also Rio came after Jaap.

Were they on ket? £#%&!ing McClaren

I think Trippers is confusing Stam with Vidic. Personally I love them both equally, although I wouldn't get them mixed up.

Stam though. Absolutely £#%&!ing insane the way he left the club. But it was the way Fergie ran the squad. Sometimes it worked, sometimes he ended up looking like a @#%&!. With Stam he ended up looking like a @#%&!, but at least he admitted he £#%&!ed up.

What could've been though...

Originally Posted by TripDownMiseryLane

Never seen a better defensive partnership than him and Rio anywhere, ever.

They were excellent in that Forest game.

Originally Posted by TripDownMiseryLane

Can only think it was something massively personal, the way it happened so quickly as well, it was bizarre, selling one the best defenders in the world more or less overnight Never seen a better defensive partnership than him and Rio anywhere, ever.

I'm pretty sure I read it was because the stats came in and were saying that JS was making fewer tackles or something.

Turned out - a complete misreading of stats. He was intercepting more and his positional awareness was improving so he didn't have to make as many tackles.

an immense defender.

The Stam sale was an absolute sickener, all transpired on a Sunday morning did it not?

He had a torrid start to that season from memory being a fault for Owens goal in the charity shield and getting rinsed by Saha in the opening match of the season. Sure he had a couple more poorish games then that was him.

It hurt when we played Milan in 04-05 and he was absolutely brilliant

Originally Posted by My Name is Heath

I'm pretty sure I read it was because the stats came in and were saying that JS was making fewer tackles or something.

Turned out - a complete misreading of stats. He was intercepting more and his positional awareness was improving so he didn't have to make as many tackles.

an immense defender.

Paolo Maldini once said "If I have to make a tackle then I have already made a mistake".

Originally Posted by Zorg

Paolo Maldini once said "If I have to make a tackle then I have already made a mistake".

yeah I heard him nicking another one of my catchphrases too.

Originally Posted by TripDownMiseryLane

Don't understand the question

They never played together

Originally Posted by Zorg

Paolo Maldini once said "If I have to make a tackle then I have already made a mistake".

Originally Posted by Pop

"If we're facing in the right direction, all we've gotta do is keep on walking"

Is that a philosopher?

nods

which?

Des’ree

Originally Posted by TripDownMiseryLane

Never seen a better defensive partnership than him and Rio anywhere, ever.

Thought fergie got wind he was on the juice ?

Saha utterly ruined him first game of the season and Fergie decided he’d lost a bit after the Achilles injury and binned him. Half of the @#%&!s in the squad would’ve been binned by Fergie a week into their United career’s tbf. Was a bit of book balancing going on after buying Ruud an Veron too imo.

Did spend a fair bit of his career from then on at RB IIRC for Milan, so maybe he called it right? Then there was the Nandralone ban that occurred so soon after his departure..

Originally Posted by dunk

Saha utterly ruined him first game of the season and Fergie decided he’d lost a bit after the Achilles injury and binned him. Half of the @#%&!s in the squad would’ve been binned by Fergie a week into their United career’s tbf. Was a bit of book balancing going on after buying Ruud an Veron too imo.

Did spend a fair bit of his career from then on at RB IIRC for Milan, so maybe he called it right? Then there was the Nandralone ban that occurred so soon after his departure..

Hasn’t Fergie gone record as saying he made a mistake selling him?