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Unread 27-12-2014, 05:53 PM
woody78
 
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Caught the last 5 mins of sky sports greatest prem xi this morning. Gerrard made that team with Vieira. No Keane or Scholes.
No Ferdinand in defence either
 
Unread 27-12-2014, 06:05 PM
TripDownMiseryLane
 
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Caught the last 5 mins of sky sports greatest non utd prem xi this morning. Gerrard made that team with Vieira. No Keane or Scholes.
corrected for you. murdoch and his minions will never let it go.
 
Unread 27-12-2014, 06:11 PM
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I've criticised him a lot over the last couple of years but in hindsight some of it was %@#$&!s

He's going to be United and England's top scorer ever. Not exactly shit is it.

He's not been as good Messi and Ronaldo (I thought he'd end up being as good as them when he was 18/19) but he's had a bloody good career, both in terms of goals scored and trophies won.

He's also regularly scored against Arsenal, Chelsea, City, Liverpool etc not just against shite
 
Unread 27-12-2014, 06:12 PM
red in cumbria
 
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Have never been a Rooney hater despite him often being frustrating as £#%&! in the last few years.

Am delighted he is now doing well
 
Unread 27-12-2014, 06:28 PM
Nani
 
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wont get near shearer, he should have done with his ability but had too many poor seasons
Disagree completely, in as much as he won't beat shearer due to bad seasons. The two seasons he mainly been played as the main striker his record is just as good as Shearer really (2009/10, 2011/12) He won't beat Shearer because he's barely been the main striker from Ruud early on, then Ronaldo, then Berbs for a season, then RVP etc. I think he would've beaten him, maybe already, if he'd had that lead striker role. I'm glad he didn't because it's largely benefitted the team overall. He has had average seasons though. 2009/10 he was superb though after Ronnie left, and only injury to him probably stopped us from winning the league and maybe making a champions league final.

His ability as a goalscorer is pretty damn good though and he really seems on top of it at the moment. I thought both the goals against Arsenal and Liverpool were really really cool, so many other players wouldn't have had the composure.

I'd have been really happy to see him go in that final year of Fergie, and all that contract shit still annoys me a bit, but I'm really glad we've still got him, playing out of his skin
 
Unread 27-12-2014, 06:30 PM
dragflick
 
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Caught the last 5 mins of sky sports greatest prem xi this morning. Gerrard made that team with Vieira. No Keane or Scholes.
£#%&!inghell

£#%&!ers.
 
Unread 27-12-2014, 07:18 PM
moyescaust
 
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Prime keane and scholes would wreck gerrard and viera.

It wouldn't even be a contest with Gerrards headless chicken act in midfield.

Keanes positioning was a little out but gerrard was all over the shop as noted by Benitez .

Scholes was the most talented central midfield player in the premier league by a distance.

Fabregas is very talented but less than scholes.

Watch the beginning his passing against arsenal in the cup a few years ago.

He was a genius.

 
Unread 28-12-2014, 02:28 AM
Neo
 
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I will hold my hands up and say that I wasn't happy with his form and performances in recent years, and I thought he was on a downward spiral, leaving his peak in 2008. I also felt he was the wrong choice for captain after his red card for kicking out earlier this season, and his %@#$&!ing of some of the younger players following his own £#%&!-up at Leicester.

However, he's been brilliant over the last few weeks, and seems to be maturing into a good leader. This is currently the best I've seen him play since 2010. He must be doing some serious hard graft on the training ground, and has risen to the challenge of having players like Mata, Van Persie and Falcao competing with him for a place in the side. Fair play to him, and it's vvg2c.
 
Unread 28-12-2014, 02:33 AM
thenorthwillriseagain
 
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Prime keane and scholes would wreck gerrard and viera.

It wouldn't even be a contest with Gerrards headless chicken act in midfield.

Keanes positioning was a little out but gerrard was all over the shop as noted by Benitez .

Scholes was the most talented central midfield player in the premier league by a distance.

Fabregas is very talented but less than scholes.

Watch the beginning his passing against arsenal in the cup a few years ago.

He was a genius.

Paul Scholes passing compilation - YouTube
There was a game against CSKA away in which scholes out in one of the most amazing performances I think I've ever seen, every touch of his was perfect and if it had been on a bigger stage than a champions league group match it would have won awards.
 
Unread 28-12-2014, 07:34 AM
Denis Irwell
 
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Another 13 this season, which, ok is a bit of a push, and then he needs 60 to level it. No reason why not whilst LVG is here. Probably do it by the time he's 33. Wouldn't be surprised to see him step down to mid table in order to do it if necessary. Top United, England and prem.

Ex PL players' top XI? Just rename it dippers and arse bitter @#%&!s XI.
 
Unread 28-12-2014, 09:04 AM
Nani
 
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Another 13 this season, which, ok is a bit of a push, and then he needs 60 to level it. No reason why not whilst LVG is here. Probably do it by the time he's 33. Wouldn't be surprised to see him step down to mid table in order to do it if necessary. Top United, England and prem.

Ex PL players' top XI? Just rename it dippers and arse bitter @#%&!s XI.
@Joey7Barton: Premier League #One2Eleven: P.Schmeichel G.Neville R.Ferdinand T.Adams A.Cole R.Keane P.Vieira C.Ronaldo P.Scholes R.Giggs A.Shearer

Fairly decent from Barton tbf - not quite sure what the formation would be though. Probably wouldn't have Giggs in it (although depends on whether we are talking about greatest players, or best based on ability) Don't think that side would take much shit from anyone.
 
Unread 28-12-2014, 09:38 AM
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sorry to barge in while everyone has their dicks out ....
would it be right to say Rooney is playing well in midfield while Mata is making things tick and getting assists in the "no.10" they both want to play?
 
Unread 28-12-2014, 10:11 AM
BarryX
 
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There have been a fair few of us, over the years, saying that they wanted Rooney to take on a role as a midfielder, but I honestly thought it would never happen because his passing and control had been so inconsistent, that at time it felt unreal. Am very glad to see him finally starting to get it right, and really, really want him to stay there from now on. Was it a 91% completion rate on Boxing day, including some lovely sprayed balls (arf). IF he continues in that form, we'll have a truly great attacking central midfielder: passing, goals, energy and hard as £#%&!ing nails. He could be like a Robson and Scholes rolled into one, and £#%&! me have we needed goals from midfield for a long time....
 
Unread 28-12-2014, 10:31 AM
Child of Darkness
 
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since when was stinks of piss the top scorer ever ?

hes miles off jimmy greaves

Rank Name Years Matches Goals (%)
1 Jimmy Greaves 1957–1972 516 357 69%
2 Steve Bloomer 1892–1910 536 317 59%
3 Dixie Dean 1924–1938 362 310 86%
4 Gordon Hodgson 1925–1940 456 287 63%
5 Alan Shearer 1988–2006 559 283 51%
6 Charlie Buchan 1912–1928 482 257 53%
7 Nat Lofthouse 1946–1960 452 255 56%
8 Joe Bradford 1921–1935 410 248 60%
9 Hughie Gallacher 1925–1938 355 246 72%
10 Joe Smith 1925–1938 410 243 59%
 
Unread 28-12-2014, 10:44 AM
Denis Irwell
 
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@Joey7Barton: Premier League #One2Eleven: P.Schmeichel G.Neville R.Ferdinand T.Adams A.Cole R.Keane P.Vieira C.Ronaldo P.Scholes R.Giggs A.Shearer

Fairly decent from Barton tbf - not quite sure what the formation would be though. Probably wouldn't have Giggs in it (although depends on whether we are talking about greatest players, or best based on ability) Don't think that side would take much shit from anyone.
Not bad at all but would have Scholes in for Vieira or even Keane

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since when was stinks of piss the top scorer ever ?

hes miles off jimmy greaves

Rank Name Years Matches Goals (%)
1 Jimmy Greaves 1957–1972 516 357 69%
2 Steve Bloomer 1892–1910 536 317 59%
3 Dixie Dean 1924–1938 362 310 86%
4 Gordon Hodgson 1925–1940 456 287 63%
5 Alan Shearer 1988–2006 559 283 51%
6 Charlie Buchan 1912–1928 482 257 53%
7 Nat Lofthouse 1946–1960 452 255 56%
8 Joe Bradford 1921–1935 410 248 60%
9 Hughie Gallacher 1925–1938 355 246 72%
10 Joe Smith 1925–1938 410 243 59%
Now just behave, you know football was invented in 1993.
Dean's goals/games ratio
 
Unread 28-12-2014, 11:09 AM
Child of Darkness
 
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Gordan hodkinsonslymphoma>scherererer
 
Unread 28-12-2014, 11:51 AM
dunk
 
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sorry to barge in while everyone has their dicks out ....
would it be right to say Rooney is playing well in midfield while Mata is making things tick and getting assists in the "no.10" they both want to play?
Not if you saw the Southampton and Villa games, or any away game, really, no. Or even games against decent opponents at OT.

Was reading about Jimmy Greaves the other day, he was £#%&!ing awesome.
 
Unread 28-12-2014, 11:52 AM
Time For Heroes
 
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Not bad at all but would have Scholes in for Vieira or even Keane
So you'd have two Scholes in your team? Interesting.
 
Unread 28-12-2014, 11:54 AM
ashtonred
 
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Justified arrogance from our captain.

I love it.

Wayne Rooney .......

"I have never gone around pinching myself, saying this is unbelievable, isn’t it amazing what I’m doing. Of course it’s fantastic playing for Manchester United, brilliant playing for England, but my main thought when I turn out for either of them is the same – I deserve it.”
 
Unread 01-01-2015, 03:52 PM
saffers
 
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An absolute passenger away from home.

He shouldnt play midfield away from home. Enough is enough. It works at home with the extra space he can walk into with usually defensive sides focusing on Rvp and Falcao.

Shocking touch, shocking passing. Him not turning up away is another part of the disjointed as £#%&! football away from home.
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