Our transfer business

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

Explains quite a bit.



Oh please, this is united’s board you’re talking about. There’s only one thing they’re interested in.

You made your opinion up on whatever I say anyway so stop £#%&!ing quoating me you #@&%!

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

Oh please, this is united’s board you’re talking about. There’s only one thing they’re interested in.

Whatever they're interested in, them blocking the squad being filled with old players on long contracts is positive.

The contract Rooney was given by Ed and Moyes for 5.5 years in 2013 set the team back massively.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Whatever they're interested in, them blocking the squad being filled with old players on long contracts is positive.

The contract Rooney was given by Ed and Moyes for 5.5 years in 2013 set the team back massively.

Although not on City's level, there's been heavy investment in the squad since Fergie left.

Mata, Fellaini, Pogba, Matic, Di Maria, Lukaku, Martial, Shaw all bought for big money at the time, plus all the other smaller buys.

The problem is that most have turned out to be not good enough.

Originally Posted by Ranier Wolfcastle

Although not on City's level, there's been heavy investment in the squad since Fergie left.

Mata, Fellaini, Pogba, Matic, Di Maria, Lukaku, Martial, Shaw all bought for big money at the time, plus all the other smaller buys.

The problem is that most have turned out to be not good enough.

Of course. Albeit what hasn't helped is the lack of players who were able to see through these transitions.

Ideally Fergie leaves behind 4-5 world class players under 28 that can assist the change, rather than almost an entire squad that isn't sustainable due to quality or, more significantly, age. Almost all Fergie's best players were old. That was a warning sign.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Of course. Albeit what hasn't helped is the lack of players who were able to see through these transitions.

Ideally Fergie leaves behind 4-5 world class players under 28 that can assist the change, rather than almost an entire squad that isn't sustainable due to quality or, more significantly, age. Almost all Fergie's best players were old. That was a warning sign.

Agreed. Fergie used them like a crutch in the end to make up for the woeful investment post 2009. The class of 92 had every single drop squeezed out of them to the bitter end, which should have never been the case.

The Glazers in their ignorance just banked on Fergie being there forever and a day, to continue somehow winning top prizes with a few old heads surrounded by one or two top players and others that were mostly mediocre.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Agreed. Fergie used them like a crutch in the end to make up for the woeful investment post 2009. The class of 92 had every single drop squeezed out of them to the bitter end, which should have never been the case.

The Glazers in their ignorance just banked on Fergie being there forever and a day, to continue somehow winning top prizes with a few old heads surrounded by one or two top players and others that were mostly mediocre.

Ffs losing Scholes, Giggs, Evra, Ferdinand and Vidic in the space of 12 months while Rooney, van Persie and Carrick all go past their best. Even Fletch. Is it any wonder it's not as simple as just spending money to buy a whole new dressing room dynamic

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Ffs losing Scholes, Giggs, Evra, Ferdinand and Vidic in the space of 12 months while Rooney, van Persie and Carrick all go past their best. Even Fletch. Is it any wonder it's not as simple as just spending money to buy a whole new dressing room dynamic

No it isn't.

It will go down as a comprehensive lesson in how not to hand over the reigns of power.

As has been said before, things started declining in the summer of 2009 with the beginning of the value era and a shocking lack of ambition to compete for the best players.

Fergie held it together but his departure and Moyes' arrival sent us off the cliff.

United fans pine for Gill over Woodward
for some reason but he was just as complicit in the "value" disgrace whilst also bungling other transfers that had great potential (Robben for example)

Originally Posted by Ranier Wolfcastle

As has been said before, things started declining in the summer of 2009 with the beginning of the value era and a shocking lack of ambition to compete for the best players.

Fergie held it together but his departure and Moyes' arrival sent us off the cliff.

United fans pine for Gill over Woodward
for some reason but he was just as complicit in the "value" disgrace whilst also bungling other transfers that had great potential (Robben for example)

Very true. Think we'd all become sick of Gill's company line %@#$&!s in the years before the end.

The RvP signing a rare exception. Clearly Fergie thought £#%&! the rest of the team, City ain't getting him - I'm going out on a high

https://twitter.com/DrawtyDevil/status/1022224874788585485

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Very true. Think we'd all become sick of Gill's company line balls in the years before the end.

The RvP signing a rare exception. Clearly Fergie thought f*** the rest of the team, City ain't getting him - I'm going out on a high

"I'm a dinosaur, but I'm a winner" End of season speech at the start of that summer

https://youtu.be/VT2DjV2jFMI

Originally Posted by Buck

https://twitter.com/DrawtyDevil/stat...24874788585485

Club needs to look at itself then. You can't say you've bought poorly so you can't buy any more players. You need to address why recruitment isn't better. Loathe to say it but the Scousers seem to be on the ball in that area. Yes they'll get it wrong, but you sense there's a plan there.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Club needs to look at itself then. You can't say you've bought poorly so you can't buy any more players. You need to address why recruitment isn't better. Loathe to say it but the Scousers seem to be on the ball in that area. Yes they'll get it wrong, but you sense there's a plan there.

Liverpool’s signings over past two seasons have been smart. As you say, can see the rationale for how each signing improves the team. Ours just seem like random names. Sanchez for me symbolises this. Only made sense if he was go to play on the right. Which of course he didn’t.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Club needs to look at itself then. You can't say you've bought poorly so you can't buy any more players. You need to address why recruitment isn't better. Loathe to say it but the Scousers seem to be on the ball in that area. Yes they'll get it wrong, but you sense there's a plan there.

Correct. They're absolutely getting their house in order now which is concerning to say the least.

When we brought scholes out of retirement rather than buy a top player for that position says everything about our slow decline

Originally Posted by Sparky***

No it isn't.

It will go down as a comprehensive lesson in how not to hand over the reigns of power.

That's Fergie's next book title sorted

We are severely lacking goals yet Mourinho is hunting down average lumps at centre half and middle of the road "defensively & tactically minded" wingers

Insane.

Originally Posted by Red Al

When we brought scholes out of retirement rather than buy a top player for that position says everything about our slow decline

Absolutely. It actually wasn't that slow either -- from best team in Europe to also rans in 2-3 years I'd say.

Jose Mourinho turned down Ed Woodward’s proposals for Manchester United to ‘pursue’ Kylian Mbappe, Neymar and Gareth Bale this summer.

United have signed three players in the current transfer window thus far, with Fred, Diogo Dalot and Lee Grant arriving.

Mourinho is keen to sign two more, with a centre-half top of his agenda.

According to The Independent however, the Portuguese rejected interest in Mbappe, Neymar and Bale, among other ‘big name’ signings proposed by executive vice-chairman Woodward.

Miguel Delaney says ‘there were more than a few meetings’ where Woodward would pitch a player of such stature – probably because he’s obsessed with making one of his fantasy deals come true.

But Mourinho would ‘turn him down’ as he ‘has a clear vision’ of what he wants his team to look and play like. He wants ‘hard-working wingers’, not ‘more flamboyant wide attackers’.

Instead, the manager would rather concentrate on signing ‘granite-hard and experienced central defenders’, hence the interest in Tottenham centre-half Toby Alderweireld.

‘One argument put forward by those close to Mourinho is that he can’t yet fully commit to more expansive football because he hasn’t had the defensive framework he fully trusts – because he hasn’t had centre-halves he fully trusts,’ the article says.

Alderweireld is his ‘top priority’, but the two clubs are £10m apart in their valuations. Harry Maguire is thus ‘being considered’, but is not quite as desirable.

To solve his perceived central defensive problems, Delaney even claims that Mourinho is considering ‘moving Nemanja Matic back to centre-half’.

Jose Mourinho turned down Ed Woodward’s proposals for Manchester United to ‘pursue’ Kylian Mbappe, Neymar and Gareth Bale this summer.

Of course he £#%&!ing did, mainly because he knows like anyone with half a brain does, that we have £#%&! all chance of signing any of them.

It would have been yet another one of Woodward's now infamous wastes of time.