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Unread 19-03-2018, 08:06 PM
RemisMoses
 
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I'd probably still go for Messi as I think he brings out more in teammates and to his side's general play. But the argument about Ronaldo having done it in two countries and for two huge clubs is a strong one. The international thing feels less convincing; Ronaldo didn't play very well for Portugal in 2016 and missed most of the final. Messi has dragged Argentina to finals and lost by the narrowest of margins.
History doesn’t care about fine margins, Messi hasn’t even won A Copa América and if he doesn’t Ronaldo will be looked on more favourably imo
 
Unread 19-03-2018, 10:12 PM
Cream
 
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I'd probably still go for Messi as I think he brings out more in teammates and to his side's general play. But the argument about Ronaldo having done it in two countries and for two huge clubs is a strong one. The international thing feels less convincing; Ronaldo didn't play very well for Portugal in 2016 and missed most of the final. Messi has dragged Argentina to finals and lost by the narrowest of margins.
He captained his largely unfancied side to tournament glory. Let's not be *niggley about it.



*substituted for PC era.
 
Unread 19-03-2018, 10:31 PM
Switching Off
 
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I’d have Ronaldo back in a heartbeat. The denial and shite that would eminate from the Emptyhad would be hilarious.
Looking at this squad, the way City are playing, can see Mourinho thinking he's the only one who can elevate us to that level. 90m for a couple of seasons while we rebuild around him.
 
Unread 19-03-2018, 10:33 PM
S/Side.Red
 
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History doesn’t care about fine margins, Messi hasn’t even won A Copa América and if he doesn’t Ronaldo will be looked on more favourably imo
From now on history will be accompanied by videos of every goal and a million YouTube compilations. Messi will arguably become untouchable in that regard.
 
Unread 19-03-2018, 11:53 PM
utd99
 
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From now on history will be accompanied by videos of every goal and a million YouTube compilations. Messi will arguably become untouchable in that regard.
Agreed. Ronnie perfected his art, but Messi is an artist.
 
Unread 30-03-2018, 01:48 AM
ScarFace
 
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Same artist. Re did it.
 
Unread 30-03-2018, 06:14 AM
waynes ear's
 
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still not dark enough though
 
Unread 30-03-2018, 11:52 AM
Cream
 
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Same artist. Re did it.
That really shows up how comical the first one was. Made things worse for himself, if anything.
 
Unread 30-03-2018, 11:53 AM
saffers
 
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That really shows up how comical the first one was. Made things worse for himself, if anything.
Great redemption story.

Gives hope to everyone else who have been ridiculed on the internet. You can rise again.
 
Unread 30-03-2018, 11:54 AM
Pop
 
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Bit of a rapey vibe to the new one.
 
Unread 30-03-2018, 12:08 PM
Cream
 
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Great redemption story.

Gives hope to everyone else who have been ridiculed on the internet. You can rise again.
Thanks for the words of encouragement.
 
Unread 30-03-2018, 05:39 PM
sa7
 
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That really shows up how comical the first one was. Made things worse for himself, if anything.
Apparently he’s still claiming he was chuffed with the initial one and wouldn’t have done it any other way
 
Unread 30-03-2018, 06:48 PM
Neo
 
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Agreed. Ronnie perfected his art, but Messi is an artist.
 
Unread 03-04-2018, 01:55 PM
ScarFace
 
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Unread 05-04-2018, 01:45 PM
doudou
 
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Unread 05-04-2018, 01:50 PM
92ToBury
 
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%@#$&!s. Stat of the day:
Ronaldo has score more Champions League goals than Liverpool. Ever.
 
Unread 05-04-2018, 01:52 PM
doudou
 
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%@#$&!s. Stat of the day:
Ronaldo has score more Champions League goals than Liverpool. Ever.
Didn't know that
 
Unread 05-04-2018, 01:56 PM
believe
 
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It’s a phenomenal stat on Ronaldo’s behalf but out of curiosity how many have Real scored in the same period, on a goals to games ratio?
 
Unread 05-04-2018, 02:00 PM
Cream
 
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It’s a phenomenal stat on Ronaldo’s behalf but out of curiosity how many have Real scored in the same period, on a goals to games ratio?
 
Unread 07-04-2018, 09:17 AM
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Cringe C&P from FB but you get the jist

Cristiano Ronaldo vs Lionel Messi in court:

Judge: Have any of you won the
Golden ball?
Ronaldo: Yes, 5 times.
Messi: Yes, 5 times as well.

Judge: Have any of you won the
Golden Boot?
Ronaldo: Yes, 4 times.
Messi: Same here.

Judge: How many individual trophies
have you each won?
Ronaldo: 16.
Messi: 13.

Judge: Have any of you played for
another club’s first team besides your
current one?
Ronaldo: Yes! Sporting CP in Portugal
first division and Manchester United
in BPL.
Messi: No. Only Barcelona.

Judge: Have any of you won a title
with your national team?
Ronaldo: Yes! We won Portugal’s first
ever European Championship.
Messi: No.

Judge: How many goals have each of
you scored for your respective
teams?
Ronaldo: Should I count the goals
I’ve scored for Man United and
Sporting?
Judge: No. Only for Real Madrid.
Ronaldo: 436 goals in 426
appearances or 9 seasons.
Messi: 539 goals in 625 appearances
or 14 seasons.

Judge: Who has scored more hat-
tricks in La Liga?
Ronaldo: Me. 35 in La Liga.
Messi: Ronaldo has. I’ve scored 28.

Judge: Which is the most prestigious
competition in club football?
Ronaldo: Champions League.
Messi: Champions League.

Judge: Have any of you won
Champions League?
Ronaldo: Yes, 4 times in total with 2
different teams. Once with Man United
and 3 times with Madrid.
Messi: Yes, 4 times as well with
Barcelona only.

Judge: Who has scored more goals in
the CL between the two of you?
Ronaldo: I’ve scored 118 goals in the
CL.
Messi: I’ve scored 100.

Judge: Who has more assists
between the two of you in the CL?
Ronaldo: I have 39.
Messi: Ronaldo has. I have 26.

Judge: Who has scored more goals in
total in the CL finals?
Ronaldo: Me.
Messi: Ronaldo.

Judge: Which one of you have scored
more free kicks?
Ronaldo: I have.
Messi: Ronaldo has.

Judge: Most goals with weak foot?
Ronaldo: Me, I think.
Messi: (Nods in agreement).

Judge: Most goals from outside of the
box?
Ronaldo: Me.. again.
Messi: Ronaldo.

Judge: Who has scored more
headers?
Ronaldo: Is that a serious question?
Messi: ...

Judge: Who has a better penalty
conversion rate?
Ronaldo: I think I do. I’ve scored 82%
of the penalties I’ve taken.
Messi: I’ve scored 77% of the
penalties I’ve taken.

Judge: Which one of you have scored
the most goals in total during your
career?
Ronaldo: I think I have. 647 goals.
Messi: I’ve scored 603

Judge: How many football records do
each of you hold in total for both
club and country?
Ronaldo: 146
Messi: 110

Judge: Well, after analyzing all of the
facts that have been presented to me.
I can only draw one conclusion when
it comes to comparing you both as
football players. That conclusion is
that Ronaldo is the better player in
almost every category. When it comes
to goal scoring and accolades for
both club and country, Ronaldo
comes out on top. Messi, you are
without a doubt Barcelona’s best
player of all time. But certainly not
the world’s best ever. That is clearly
Ronaldo at the moment.

Messi: But I am younger than Ronaldo
and haven’t played as many matches
as him.

Judge: I understand that, but until
you surpass his goal scoring records
and win as many trophies both
individually and collectively as he
has, then Ronaldo will, according to
the statistics, be considered as the
best football player of all time. Until
then, keep pushing on and you just
might be able to achieve just as
much as Ronaldo.
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