*Official* Norwich v United Match thread. Teams & Things people have typed within

Originally Posted by borsuk

the same lines are always trotted out whenever there's a bad result. jem's been peddling the 'we win in spite of fergie' line since the early days of ri.

I know, yeah. I shouldn't bother.

Fergie picked the team, a slight variation on the one that failed and had to be rescued last week, absolutely everybody immediately recognised the potential for a gargantuan £#%&! up the second the team was released, the manager didn't.

Not sure who else to blame tbh. Apparently an old dog can't be taught.

Originally Posted by dunk

Fergie picked the team, a slight variation on the one that failed and had to be rescued last week, absolutely everybody immediately recognised the potential for a gargantuan £#%&! up the second the team was released, the manager didn't.

Not sure who else to blame tbh. Apparently an old dog can't be taught.

the way people are going on you'd have thought it was something new. for 20-odd years fergie has £#%&!ed about with the side, picking weakened teams against weaker opposition, and from time to time it's bitten him on the arse. it happened yesterday and it's his fault but some of the shite about him not having a clue, tactically inept, lost it, needs to move on is ludicrous ffs.

Phelan has a lot to answer for imo.

Originally Posted by borsuk

the way people are going on you'd have thought it was something new. for 20-odd years fergie has £#%&!ed about with the side, picking weakened teams against weaker opposition, and from time to time it's bitten him on the arse. it happened yesterday and it's his fault but some of the shite about him not having a clue, tactically inept, lost it, needs to move on is ludicrous ffs.

Mistakes happen, no problem. It's the continued repitition of the same £#%&!ing mistakes that grates. Such as the continued insistence on picking one of Scholes or Giggs alongside Carrick in a 2 man midfield despite all the evidence proving that it doesn't £#%&!ing work.

I would never call him tactically inept, but the having a clue thing is starting to worry me.

Van Pizzle was poor yesterday. Wish we were still a 1 man team with him.

Originally Posted by dunk

Mistakes happen, no problem. It's the continued repitition of the same £#%&!ing mistakes that grates. Such as the continued insistence on picking one of Scholes or Giggs alongside Carrick in a 2 man midfield despite all the evidence proving that it doesn't £#%&!ing work.

I would never call him tactically inept, but the having a clue thing is starting to worry me.

This.

Originally Posted by borsuk

the way people are going on you'd have thought it was something new. for 20-odd years fergie has £#%&!ed about with the side, picking weakened teams against weaker opposition, and from time to time it's bitten him on the arse. it happened yesterday and it's his fault but some of the shite about him not having a clue, tactically inept, lost it, needs to move on is ludicrous ffs.

He needs to improve, do you agree? Both in terms of team selection and ideas.

Giving players minutes is one thing, giving giggs minutes in a 2 man midfield, with players like cleverley, Anderson and fletcher to a degree in much more need of games.

He also chooses 44£#%&!ing2 time after time, regardless of our inability to carry it, having a shit midfield as we do. And we know the reason for that ain't the owners.

there's a reason we've gone behind 11 times this season

i'm not saying fergie should be sacked
i'm saying phelan should
@#%&!

Does Fergie even watch our games back?

Must be next to no coaching going on at the club, never seen a squad so strong be so mismanaged. Makes you wonder where we'd be without Chicha and RvPizzle....

Originally Posted by thenorthwillriseagain

there's a reason we've gone behind 11 times this season

i'm not saying fergie should be sacked
i'm saying phelan should
@#%&!

I'm not so sure that phelan has the input into team selection and tactics that you give him credit for.

I think fergie does it all and the other two are just yes men.

We need a good number two who is both tactically aware and not afraid to tell the great man when he may have got it wrong.

Carlos seems to have had his chance and blown it when he left for the second time and I don't see any other obvious candidates ... unless Ole wants to do it, with the long term aim of eventually taking over.

Originally Posted by Alan

He's a better player than valencia anyway

No, he isn't.

£#%&! it, I'm done with it now. Time to look forward to the Fletcher and Scholes master class in Hell on Tuesday

Originally Posted by dunk

£#%&! it, I'm done with it now. Time to look forward to the Fletcher and Scholes master class in Hell on Tuesday

Gotta watch juve v chelsea surely, something riding on it.

Not gonna subject myself to fergies boring football when weve already won the group.

Originally Posted by saffers

Gotta watch juve v chelsea surely, something riding on it.

Not gonna subject myself to fergies boring football when weve already won the group.

Nah, can't be arsed watching anyone but United atm, painful as it is.

We got away with it at Villa last week. We were every bit as shocking there than we were yesterday (first half @ VP was woeful)

As soon as I saw the team sheet I knew we were in for another shit fest of football. Fergie will never, ever learn re: picking weakened teams against inferior opposition. He just can't help himself. Giggs & Scholes should be played only in meaningless games from now on - the Champions League dead rubbers for example - but he give Giggs 90 £#%&!ing minutes alongside slackjaw. It's a recipe for disaster.

I know we can't win every game but Carrow Road ought to be a place we go to and come away with 3 points. Instead we rocked up, played absolutely shit and got what we deserved. Did Ruddy make a save of note? (Apart from the near own goal) Pathetic

Originally Posted by saffers

Gotta watch juve v chelsea surely, something riding on it.

Not gonna subject myself to fergies boring football when weve already won the group.

Couldn't give a shit about Juventus v Chelsea pal

FWIW, if we'd gone there yesterday and lost with Anderson or Cleverley in rather than Giggs, I doubt the reaction would be quite the same. It used to wind me up when he insisted on picking Blanc rather than O'Shea or Brown, I don't mind losing if the players/manager are going to learn from it, or even if we're beaten by a side who is just on it that day or better, but to be beaten because old players are being relied upon when there are youngsters in need of game time and development is frustrating.

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Originally Posted by dunk

FWIW, if we'd gone there yesterday and lost with Anderson or Cleverley in rather than Giggs, I doubt the reaction would be quite the same. It used to wind me up when he insisted on picking Blanc rather than O'Shea or Brown, I don't mind losing if the players/manager are going to learn from it, or even if we're beaten by a side who is just on it that day or better, but to be beaten because old players are being relied upon when there are youngsters in need of game time and development is frustrating.

Very well put