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anyway I've just ate half a mars bar so I will crush you with my chocolatey energy. Did I ever say I dont want Hargreaves or he is bad? Thats not the issue, the question is if Hargreaves and Carrick is our new backbone ala Scholes and Keane, I think we'd be £#%&!ed. Hargreaves would be a great squad player, but its clear he isnt coming to do that. Rotation perhaps - Is that the answer to the original question then? Hargreaves will do one thing and that is toughen up our midfield when we're wobbly or losing the battle, we can put him on instead of O'Shea and thats great. But as a first choice alongside Carrick? I dont rate it. As I said, when we're struggling to break down a stubborn defence, he's wouldnt help, and neither would Carrick tbh. Whats wrong with Sneijder? I'm sorry was I supposed to say a bigger name or perhaps an unknown to surprise you all? o_0 He will be available soon and is a good player. These quality players ARE out there, the next Fabregas or Kaka etc. |
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Fabregas is a maggot. Not fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Kaka at the moment either, and probably never will be.
Hargreaves to be brought on to shore it up in place of O'Shea? You're taking the piss now. Sneijder will do for me at OT - the more the merrier. You answered your own question, although you called using the squad "rotation" for some reason. United have been using the squad all season and we're 6pts clear. Making that squad better is what it's all about. As for the Sun jibe? Not to put too fine a point on it: £#%&! you |
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I'd take Fabregas in a heartbeat. Great player - you're stupid. Sneijder isnt my choice, but I'd look at him, good shot, set pieces and he is simply a danger on the pitch. Hardly the finished article though. Fletcher and O'Shea seem more likely to score than Carrick or Hargreaves tbh and that doesnt bode well. but man you're sensationalist reaction to my posts is boring now. I'd done ranting awhile ago, if you want me to entertain you further, you have to first be entertaining yourself, not repeat some weird mumbo jumbo. When Scholes and Giggs move on, would you be happy with a Hargreaves and Carrick partnership taking us thorugh the season? As for squad rotation, its mostly a recognised first 11 with a few tweaks now and then which has brought us success so far. p.s. How is having Hargreaves as back up instead of O'Shea taking the piss? |
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I've said it before and Ill say it again. If he is after a Hargreave's and Carrick midfield two they'll play a simlar way to the way Pirlo and Gattuso have played for the past 5 or so years. I think it's a very effective way of playing and some of the players we have atm are perfect for such a system.
We need another two midfielders imo so Hargreaves and Nani will do for me as I honestly think at some point in the next few years Rooney will drop back to play a Scholes type role or Ronaldo will move into the middle the more his game progresses ala Zidane. |
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arguments over replacing player x with player y. why?
it's pointless. fergie will not repace scholes with someone similar - he will construct a m/f which he believes will be successful. of course, he'll want elements of creativity, discipline and so on and so on, but these are not embodied in individual players, but are the product of the players as a group.
i remember most of the comments regarding carrick were similar, along the lines of 'we need a new keane', as though builing a team were simply a matter of finding a dm or an am (or whatever acronyms the computer game uses this year) with the best stats. united's midfields have varied a lot over the years. to give one example, beckham was never a winger as such. he was very different to kanchelskis and to ronaldo - i don't think anyone would disagree with that. fergie didn't look for a replacement for kanchelskis but for a player who would bring something (something different) to the team, and who had the qualities of discipline and attitude to fit in. hargreaves isn't meant to the new keane, or carrick the new scholes. they're meant to be who they are and fergie obviously thinks that they will fit in together. he's generally right about these things, you know. |
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I hate threads like this, especially by people like Luffy. Going into detail over little things.
Blah blah is blah's replacement That system wouldn't work blah Look how blah do their formation Regarding formations/systems, United are at their best attacking and taking the game to the opposition with a balanced system, doesn't need to be a set system, to a degree, yes, but not completely. There is no new Scholes' we will find a player to fit Manchester United. We currently need a player with a good engine, who can tackle - who will generally give us a great engine and help us get hold of games. He's not going to be bought to replace Carrick or Scholes, he is being bought to be Owen Hargreaves. Yes, we might only be able to play two out of the three, what a £#%&!ing diaster that is, eh? Who would have thought it - options. I've noticed suddenly whenever there's talk of a player we have people posting stuff about how how will they play, someone will have to miss out etc. And? Isn't that a good thing. He would be a very good signing and just what we need, but the likes of Luffy would rather have a random foreigner who is good on Pro Evo and wears green boots, they recommend these players and suggest Manchester United could some how get them for about six million. For what it's worth I don't think we'll be able to get him in this window, but in the summer I think we will. End of rant, or whatever it was. |
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Carrick and Hargreaves would very much resemble the Gattusso and Pirlo link, however Ac Milan play with a diamond formation, and really Pirlo is a tad more dangerous player than Carrick - if he starts showing us he has a good shot etc then fantastic. This isn't even about Hargreaves being anyones replacement, its about how them two will be our backbone for the next 5 years or so. But seems everyone is of the opinion that Hargreaves is coming to improve our options and strengthen our squad - everyone agrees with me then! As a first choice midfield to carry us through a season, Hargreaves + Carrick is weak and lacking in ideas. but yeah good signing, but I hope Fergie has someone else in mind as well. |
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