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Unread 09-11-2023, 02:08 PM
Dasilvatwins
 
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Are you confused?

We've scored 70 league goals in 50 league games under Ten Hag.

Of the 17 teams who have played those 50, only 8 have scored less.

Brighton scored more last season alone than we have across both.

All football is a systems process. That's all it ever is. 11 components of a system. Occasionally you fall subject to variance (VAR; injuries etc.), but over time recognisable patterns form.

Hojlund's got 0 goals in 8 league games. Part of the pattern in our woeful attack. And yet, we all agree he has great qualities. So is the manager getting the most out of him in this system?

Garnacho taking the shot last night instead of the pass just typified why this attack has been flailing. We were lucky in that instance, as we're playing equivalent of a Championship or bottom-table team, and the keeper spilled it. But the poor decision making all remains as part of the bigger problem established over a long period of time.
Nope, but having a go at a teenager for shooting rather than passing and then putting it on the manager is stupid. The younger players tend to make the wrong decisions more than the experienced .

The whole team has been marred with injuries (another one last night) and hasn’t been able to settle. Then there’s the Antony /greenwood/Sancho situation . We haven’t a settled team for a while now and it’s showing because we play disjointed shit on a Stick football. Obviously some players aren’t good enough, obviously ETH has made errors, but to come out and say garnacho should have passed to Højlund and it’s ETHs fault he didn’t is just short sighted

“All football is a systems process” you’ve just hit the nail on the head on why football is a bit shit these days. Not even going to bother getting into that.
 
Unread 09-11-2023, 02:48 PM
Offerington
 
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Him, Garnacho and Mainoo only decent players tbf

Martinez when fit and AWB. Rest shocking mostly.
 
Unread 12-11-2023, 01:12 PM
guerreiro
 
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Badly needs a league goal and start imposing himself.

Flicker of worry it’s going all Forlan now.
 
Unread 12-11-2023, 01:23 PM
shenwen
 
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Injured? Or ETh doing a Fergie before the international break?
 
Unread 12-11-2023, 01:24 PM
Dasilvatwins
 
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Badly needs a league goal and start imposing himself.

Flicker of worry it’s going all Forlan now.
He’s our top scorer in all competitions . The guy can score goals, he has a natural instinct

He will be fine in the league.
 
Unread 12-11-2023, 01:26 PM
believe
 
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He’s our top scorer in all competitions . The guy can score goals, he has a natural instinct

He will be fine in the league.
 
Unread 12-11-2023, 01:38 PM
Lok
 
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He's what most of us expected. Talented but raw. He'll be fine long term as long as the rest of the @#%&!s don't pull him down to their level.

We still need an experienced striker.
 
Unread 12-11-2023, 01:55 PM
Jethro
 
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Ah, well. Fun while it lasted
 
Unread 12-11-2023, 01:56 PM
Bunker Buster
 
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Hamstring, 6-8 weeks...
 
Unread 12-11-2023, 01:56 PM
magic_cantona
 
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20 years old and you've got United 'fans' ready to write the lad off.

Ffs.
 
Unread 12-11-2023, 02:03 PM
believe
 
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Magic straight in with a “thing that never happened” exclusive.
 
Unread 12-11-2023, 02:06 PM
Hyman_Roth
 
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This season

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Magic straight in with a “thing that never happened” exclusive.
 
Unread 12-11-2023, 02:08 PM
Gypsum Fantastic
 
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Magic straight in with a “thing that never happened” exclusive.
He’s hysterical. Impossible to have a rational discussion as he paints every variation to his accepted narrative as the most extreme, every time.

“So you’re saying you think he’s shit and should be sold…”

 
Unread 12-11-2023, 02:45 PM
Dr Stranger
 
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If he’s out injured, that’s the last reason to watch us gone.

We need to look Into what the hell is going on with training and/or the medical team because no club is this unlucky.
 
Unread 12-11-2023, 03:10 PM
magic_cantona
 
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Badly needs a league goal and start imposing himself.

Flicker of worry it’s going all Forlan now.
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Magic straight in with a “thing that never happened” exclusive.
Literally the same page you £#%&!ing European Cup headed bastard.
 
Unread 12-11-2023, 04:37 PM
Zorg
 
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People had a meltdown when ten Hag kept taking him off, saying he needed to manage him properly, and how he's done his hamstring.
 
Unread 12-11-2023, 06:15 PM
Neo
 
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Hamstring, 6-8 weeks...
Time for the big man to step up.

Glove season incoming.

They ain't ready.

 
Unread 12-11-2023, 10:02 PM
red in cumbria
 
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He’s hysterical. Impossible to have a rational discussion as he paints every variation to his accepted narrative as the most extreme, every time.

“So you’re saying you think he’s shit and should be sold…”

There is one regular on here saying pretty much exactly that, yes.
 
Unread 12-11-2023, 10:15 PM
guerreiro
 
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Literally the same page you £#%&!ing European Cup headed bastard.
That is not writing him off and supports what Believe said.

I would go harder, but you’re such a pathetic excuse of a man I’d hate to make you feel any more wretched.
 
Unread 12-11-2023, 10:52 PM
Gypsum Fantastic
 
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There is one regular on here saying pretty much exactly that, yes.
If that’s true then a direct link to the post(s) should be easy enough to provide…
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