Henry Winter has just said Torres is "Probably the best striker in the world"

cant be churlish about it the lads a very good player but i wouldn't swap tevez or rooney for him.

Originally Posted by billy_costigan

cant be churlish about it the lads a very good player but i wouldn't swap tevez or rooney for him.

I'd swap Tevez for him in a heartbeat.

Originally Posted by dunk

21 League goals.

19 at Anfield.

Travels well.

and of the 19 - 15 were in front of the Kop end

Originally Posted by Rhodzy

I was going to come in here and say Fabiano.
Winter doesn't watch european, it's evident in his columns. He would fit in well with this forum especially for his love of Scholesy.

If Torres is the best striker in the world then why is a winger scoring more than him.

ronaldo is outscoring every striker in the world.

just thinking, tevez will probably cost us around the same as torres cost liverpool. would torres have been a better signing?

Originally Posted by fix up look SHARPE

ronaldo is outscoring every striker in the world.

just thinking, tevez will probably cost us around the same as torres cost liverpool. would torres have been a better signing?

Would he though? He is the focal point of there attack, and at United we haven't really got one. We interchange postions don't really have a focal point, so what i'm saying is i don't know if can do any other job apart from sitting up there imo and might not suit our attack and if we changed our attacking play for him would of ronaldo have got as many goals? We will never know, i'm happy with Tevez he has got important goals where as Torres hasn't.

I wouldn't swap Torres for Tevez, for fear of a 'Galacticos' type thing happening. Plus Tevez is genuinely mad, and you need that in a squad. Players like him and Evra are a big reason, I'm convinced, we can go to Rome and look comfortable. Torres is fantastic but I gots to have my Tevez.

If we are talking best strikers in the world, I can't believe no one has mentioned Ibrahimovic

Originally Posted by Rossobianchi

Would he though? He is the focal point of there attack, and at United we haven't really got one. We interchange postions don't really have a focal point, so what i'm saying is i don't know if can do any other job apart from sitting up there imo and might not suit our attack and if we changed our attacking play for him would of ronaldo have got as many goals? We will never know, i'm happy with Tevez he has got important goals where as Torres hasn't.

I think earlier this season Ferguson (or Carlos?) cited that exact reason for not signing him. I wouldn't swap Tevez for him, just because of how well Tevez combines with Rooney, Ronaldo etc.

I wouldn't swap Rooney for any player in the world.

If we exclude Ronaldo from the debate, based on their performance levels this season I'd say the only player who matches Torres in terms of pure goalscoring threat is Luis Fabiano. And Torres is a much better player than the Brazilian. So it's certainly not an outlandish claim to make.

Originally Posted by Rossobianchi

Would he though? He is the focal point of there attack, and at United we haven't really got one. We interchange postions don't really have a focal point, so what i'm saying is i don't know if can do any other job apart from sitting up there imo and might not suit our attack and if we changed our attacking play for him would of ronaldo have got as many goals? We will never know, i'm happy with Tevez he has got important goals where as Torres hasn't.

spot on. It's about how an individual fits into the team framework - not about how many goals that individual scores. Ruud is statistically the best striker we've had for decades. Would we have a better team currently had we not sold him. IMHO - no. Ruud was a focal point for our attacks - as Torres now is for them.

Ruud>Torres.

Roonaldo/Tevez>Ruud>Torres.

Originally Posted by Rossobianchi

Would he though? He is the focal point of there attack, and at United we haven't really got one. We interchange postions don't really have a focal point, so what i'm saying is i don't know if can do any other job apart from sitting up there imo and might not suit our attack and if we changed our attacking play for him would of ronaldo have got as many goals? We will never know, i'm happy with Tevez he has got important goals where as Torres hasn't.

Bang on the money for me that. Agree 100%.

would swap tevez with torres in a heart beat.

Torres/benzema are not some lump forwards like shearer/ruud where they don't have the intelligence/mobility/passing/technique to interchange positions with ronaldo and rooney.

only they can't do is run around in the midfield chasing worthless causes like tevez. yup, they can't do that, they won't be arsed to do that as they will be nearer to oppositions penalty area creating havoc

Originally Posted by Enjoying Insanity

He's the best striker in the World...



.... When he plays at Anfield

Watch him go missing again tonight.

Just like at the san Siro



Isn't Winter a Liverpool fan by the way?


He wrote Gerrards autobiography, didn't he.

Originally Posted by Carrick

Just like at the san Siro



Isn't Winter a Liverpool fan by the way?


He wrote Gerrards autobiography, didn't he.

and Marseille...

I like winter's articles these days. most articles are honest with no sense of abuism of late.

Originally Posted by keano's love

would swap tevez with torres in a heart beat.

Torres/benzema are not some lump forwards like shearer/ruud where they don't have the intelligence/mobility/passing/technique to interchange positions with ronaldo and rooney.

only they can't do is run around in the midfield chasing worthless causes like tevez. yup, they can't do that, they won't be arsed to do that as they will be nearer to oppositions penalty area creating havoc

A younger Ruud > Torres.

Ruud may have held us back in the end of his spell here but let's not forget just how £#%&!ing good he was.

Originally Posted by Serenity Now

If we exclude Ronaldo from the debate, based on their performance levels this season I'd say the only player who matches Torres in terms of pure goalscoring threat is Luis Fabiano. And Torres is a much better player than the Brazilian. So it's certainly not an outlandish claim to make.

but surely the whole point is that 'the best striker in the world' is not just the player with the greatest goalscoring threat. torres is much more than a spanish ian rush, of course, but i think he's some way off 'the best in the world'. just another typically myopic english journo imo. i mean, let's be honest, if you make a claim like that then you'd better have a pretty good knowledge of what strikers are around. you reckon henry winter can give us some intelligent analysis of the strengths and weaknesses of, say, mario gomez? (not that i'm suggesting he's the best in the world)

Originally Posted by MUFC One Love

A younger Ruud > Torres.

Ruud may have held us back in the end of his spell here but let's not forget just how £#%&!ing good he was.

I don't think I can give credit to Ruud anymore, the way he reacted at the end of his days at united, especially to ronnie ( )

Although saying that, I get pissed off when opposition fans say he was one dimensional. was he £#%&!. he could outpace most when it mattered along with a certain bumboy of english press sol campbell.

Cristiano Ronaldo is clearly the best striker in Europe.

When people finally accept this simple truth, then we can all move on.

He scores all types of goals, from all different angles and from every point of the attack; he is two-footed and stunning in the air; he is powerful, fast, brave and his timing is innate - it seems he was born to play football and to score goals.

There isn't a more complete attacker in the European game right now, and Ronaldo has scored 59 times - in the global glare of United - in less than two seasons.

Originally Posted by Teville

what does the fonzie know about football.

Originally Posted by keano's love

only they can't do is run around in the midfield chasing worthless causes like tevez. yup, they can't do that, they won't be arsed to do that as they will be nearer to oppositions penalty area creating havoc

Your single mindedness (or dislike of) Tevez knows no bounds. Yes, that's all he does. Really is an average player that lad.

Torres went elsewhere. Get over it. Utd can't have everyone. Makes me £#%&!ing laugh that we're still debating signing one or the other. It should have been both, simple as that. The failure and inability to offload Saha cost Utd in the Summer and in January.

Everytime he £#%&!ing scores, or Tevez misses a chance/doesn't score in a game, you either have to comment on it or have a snipe at a Utd player. A player who actually wants to play for Utd, will be here for a few years yet and has actually contributed to what's been a pretty good attacking Utd side this year. Torres would have made it better? I don't know that tbh, you certainly don't either. It may have worked, it may not have. His performances in Spain for me certainly wouldn't have had him down as a certainty nor does his success at Liverpool.

Oh, even if the cash was there in the Summer it'd have been Berbatov and Tevez not Torres.

It's like £#%&!ing groundhog day on here at times.