The anti-fergie stuff on here - deary me

Originally Posted by fergieslovechild

The man had/has his faults and was/isn't perfect.

He's human ffs, who on here is perfect?

But the man was the best and most successful manager our club had ever had.

Towards the end he let the other clubs over take us in the transfer market as he wouldn't/couldn't get the purse strings loosened. "No value in the market etc"

But ffs he doesn't deserve the stick he gets on here.

There I've said it.

Get £#%&!ed!

Fergies a legend.

he is quite clearly one of the greatest managers in the history of the game sometimes, you could be forgiven for thinking, almost in spite of himself. despite his achievements it is possible to give credit where it's due and to justly criticise where appropriate. life isn't black and white and most people who care to reflect abandon blind hero-worship as they reach a certain age and it dawns on them that no-one is above criticism. your hero, it becomes uncomfortably clear, has feet of clay.

for example, eric throwing away his hard-won artistic integrity by doing scouse-lauding adverts for money must have provoked some cognitive dissonance in a fair few reds. for reddles it was probably finding out giggsy was black.

ferguson had many characteristics that may have been both a fault and a virtue depending on the circumstances in which they arose. he is undoubtedly possessed of the huge ego necessary to be a leader of men. his stubborness meant that he wouldn't entertain the prospect of failure during the early years of rebuilding, but it also meant that he wouldnt readily admit mistakes even when apparent to even the most myopic of top reds (see Jim Leighton).

however, some of his failings were more egregious than others and have more far-reaching consequences. It cannot be forgotten that it was fergie's greed-fueled fall-out with the magniers that opened the door for the carpetbaggers that sit like a cancer in the heart of the club. nor can we ignore the thought that he was either disingenuous with his support for resistance while all the time engaged in behind the scenes machinations to cement his personal position at the club, or that he really was in fact opposed to the glazers but had his head turned by his love of money. we can discount the bizarre notion that he was fighting from within by his sustained vichy-like complicity with glazers.

His repeated assertions that the obviously detrimental and leeching regime were in fact "perfect owners" capture his worst shortcomings in a soundbite. the hypocrisy with his oft-professed socialist values writ as large as his name on the Big Stand (you know - the big one with his name on. faces north. opposite the south stand.).

and even as he worked a last managerial miracle in coaxing a sub-standard squad to a last championship in his quest to go out a winner, ego-driven short-termism allowed the squad to wither. and so he left a hollowed out and aging squad lacking quality in key areas to his successor - the man he personally recommended, in his own self-image no less.

Originally Posted by Larssonisghod7

aye he did to an extent but once moyes had the reighns it isnt SAF's problem any more as I said in his mind he has set him up - given him a decent set of tools and if he £#%&!s up then on his own head be it

dont see why ferguson is getting the blame for moyes £#%&!ing up, he couldnt have done any more for him

and folk complaining about his signings should be complaining about moyes not being able to manage them , its no coincedence that one season these players were playing nice, dominant football under SAF then in 6 months look utter dross, thats the current boss's fault.

clueless is never popular but jockanese cluelessness is distinctly unpopular at the moment, so if I were you I would take my aye's, cannae and folk and £#%&! the £#%&! off.

Originally Posted by irk

he is quite clearly one of the greatest managers in the history of the game sometimes, you could be forgiven for thinking, almost in spite of himself. despite his achievements it is possible to give credit where it's due and to justly criticise where appropriate. life isn't black and white and most people who care to reflect abandon blind hero-worship as they reach a certain age and it dawns on them that no-one is above criticism. your hero, it becomes uncomfortably clear, has feet of clay.

for example, eric throwing away his hard-won artistic integrity by doing scouse-lauding adverts for money must have provoked some cognitive dissonance in a fair few reds. for reddles it was probably finding out giggsy was black.

ferguson had many characteristics that may have been both a fault and a virtue depending on the circumstances in which they arose. he is undoubtedly possessed of the huge ego necessary to be a leader of men. his stubborness meant that he wouldn't entertain the prospect of failure during the early years of rebuilding, but it also meant that he wouldnt readily admit mistakes even when apparent to even the most myopic of top reds (see Jim Leighton).

however, some of his failings were more egregious than others and have more far-reaching consequences. It cannot be forgotten that it was fergie's greed-fueled fall-out with the magniers that opened the door for the carpetbaggers that sit like a cancer in the heart of the club. nor can we ignore the thought that he was either disingenuous with his support for resistance while all the time engaged in behind the scenes machinations to cement his personal position at the club, or that he really was in fact opposed to the glazers but had his head turned by his love of money. we can discount the bizarre notion that he was fighting from within by his sustained vichy-like complicity with glazers.

His repeated assertions that the obviously detrimental and leeching regime were in fact "perfect owners" capture his worst shortcomings in a soundbite. the hypocrisy with his oft-professed socialist values writ as large as his name on the South Stand.

and even as he worked a last managerial miracle in coaxing a sub-standard squad to a last championship in his quest to go out a winner, ego-driven short-termism allowed the squad to wither. and so he left a hollowed out and aging squad lacking quality in key areas to his successor - the man he personally recommended, in his own self-image no less.

North Stand pal

as if anyone's going to read that Irk going toe-to-toe with United in his title defence attempts.

Originally Posted by Mao's Favourite Starling

North Stand pal

no idea what you're talking about pal. none. no mistakes. read it again.


i write all that. I make one mistake, and the rest is disregrarded.

"I £#%&!-a da one sheep" :seething:

Fredster of the year

Originally Posted by forwardirektion

Fredster of the year

I know how fergie feels now. everyone wants a pop at the king.

Originally Posted by irk

he is quite clearly one of the greatest managers in the history of the game sometimes, you could be forgiven for thinking, almost in spite of himself. despite his achievements it is possible to give credit where it's due and to justly criticise where appropriate. life isn't black and white and most people who care to reflect abandon blind hero-worship as they reach a certain age and it dawns on them that no-one is above criticism. your hero, it becomes uncomfortably clear, has feet of clay.

for example, eric throwing away his hard-won artistic integrity by doing scouse-lauding adverts for money must have provoked some cognitive dissonance in a fair few reds. for reddles it was probably finding out giggsy was black.

ferguson had many characteristics that may have been both a fault and a virtue depending on the circumstances in which they arose. he is undoubtedly possessed of the huge ego necessary to be a leader of men. his stubborness meant that he wouldn't entertain the prospect of failure during the early years of rebuilding, but it also meant that he wouldnt readily admit mistakes even when apparent to even the most myopic of top reds (see Jim Leighton).

however, some of his failings were more egregious than others and have more far-reaching consequences. It cannot be forgotten that it was fergie's greed-fueled fall-out with the magniers that opened the door for the carpetbaggers that sit like a cancer in the heart of the club. nor can we ignore the thought that he was either disingenuous with his support for resistance while all the time engaged in behind the scenes machinations to cement his personal position at the club, or that he really was in fact opposed to the glazers but had his head turned by his love of money. we can discount the bizarre notion that he was fighting from within by his sustained vichy-like complicity with glazers.

His repeated assertions that the obviously detrimental and leeching regime were in fact "perfect owners" capture his worst shortcomings in a soundbite. the hypocrisy with his oft-professed socialist values writ as large as his name on the Big Stand (you know - the big one with his name on. faces north. opposite the south stand.).

and even as he worked a last managerial miracle in coaxing a sub-standard squad to a last championship in his quest to go out a winner, ego-driven short-termism allowed the squad to wither. and so he left a hollowed out and aging squad lacking quality in key areas to his successor - the man he personally recommended, in his own self-image no less.

hail fellow, what a marvellous post, you really must consider starting a blog.

Originally Posted by TripDownMiseryLane

clueless is never popular but jockanese cluelessness is distinctly unpopular at the moment, so if I were you I would take my aye's, cannae and folk and £#%&! the £#%&! off.

clueless £#%&! all ya dick

Originally Posted by irk

he is quite clearly one of the greatest managers in the history of the game sometimes, you could be forgiven for thinking, almost in spite of himself. despite his achievements it is possible to give credit where it's due and to justly criticise where appropriate. life isn't black and white and most people who care to reflect abandon blind hero-worship as they reach a certain age and it dawns on them that no-one is above criticism. your hero, it becomes uncomfortably clear, has feet of clay.

for example, eric throwing away his hard-won artistic integrity by doing scouse-lauding adverts for money must have provoked some cognitive dissonance in a fair few reds. for reddles it was probably finding out giggsy was black.

ferguson had many characteristics that may have been both a fault and a virtue depending on the circumstances in which they arose. he is undoubtedly possessed of the huge ego necessary to be a leader of men. his stubborness meant that he wouldn't entertain the prospect of failure during the early years of rebuilding, but it also meant that he wouldnt readily admit mistakes even when apparent to even the most myopic of top reds (see Jim Leighton).

however, some of his failings were more egregious than others and have more far-reaching consequences. It cannot be forgotten that it was fergie's greed-fueled fall-out with the magniers that opened the door for the carpetbaggers that sit like a cancer in the heart of the club. nor can we ignore the thought that he was either disingenuous with his support for resistance while all the time engaged in behind the scenes machinations to cement his personal position at the club, or that he really was in fact opposed to the glazers but had his head turned by his love of money. we can discount the bizarre notion that he was fighting from within by his sustained vichy-like complicity with glazers.

His repeated assertions that the obviously detrimental and leeching regime were in fact "perfect owners" capture his worst shortcomings in a soundbite. the hypocrisy with his oft-professed socialist values writ as large as his name on the Big Stand (you know - the big one with his name on. faces north. opposite the south stand.).

and even as he worked a last managerial miracle in coaxing a sub-standard squad to a last championship in his quest to go out a winner, ego-driven short-termism allowed the squad to wither. and so he left a hollowed out and aging squad lacking quality in key areas to his successor - the man he personally recommended, in his own self-image no less.

Originally Posted by TripDownMiseryLane

hail fellow, what a marvellous post, you really must consider starting a blog.

is that your way of telling me to £#%&! off away from fred?

Originally Posted by puressence

Ferie was summed up in2 paragraphs in his book the biggest day since munich in utds history and because of litigation 2 paragraphs. Maybe I go abit over the top with ferie out stuff but I've not waived on my opinion of him and his morals. Maybe I'm being blinkered but him at all the matches hanging around is merely a ploy from team ferguson to come back to the healm.

Are you advocating that United treat Ferguson as the Dippers treated Shankly? That's absurd.

Didn't Sir Matt attend just about every game after he retired? I think it's ridiculously naive to think that he wouldn't continue attending games, especially as he is still employed by the club.

There is absolutely no chance he is coming back in a managerial capacity at any stage tbh. This idea that he may as well have carried on as he's at every game is absurd. He attends games. He's not at Carrington 10-12 hours a day and isn't under the continuous pressures he was previously, having to manage people and talk to the press etc. Only a £#%&!ing #@&%! wouldn't see the difference.

Originally Posted by dunk

Are you advocating that United treat Ferguson as the Dippers treated Shankly? That's absurd.

Didn't Sir Matt attend just about every game after he retired? I think it's ridiculously naive to think that he wouldn't continue attending games, especially as he is still employed by the club.

There is absolutely no chance he is coming back in a managerial capacity at any stage tbh. This idea that he may as well have carried on as he's at every game is absurd. He attends games. He's not at Carrington 10-12 hours a day and isn't under the continuous pressures he was previously, having to manage people and talk to the press etc. Only a £#%&!ing #@&%! wouldn't see the difference.

Originally Posted by irk

life isn't black and white and most people who care to reflect abandon blind hero-worship as they reach a certain age and it dawns on them that no-one is above criticism. your hero, it becomes uncomfortably clear, has feet of clay.

some clowns don't reach that point.

Originally Posted by irk

is that your way of telling me to £#%&! off away from fred?

au contraire dear boy, au contraire....

Originally Posted by Child of Darkness

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I was actually thinking of Scar, but if the mongy expression fits...

fergieslovechild just has a thing for criminals whether it's someone who fixes matches against Porto and takes bungs off players agents or soldiers killing innocent muslim children he doesn't care. Heard he dresses up as a little girl wearing a United top and writes love poems to Ian Huntley as well. Sick @#%&!.

Originally Posted by irk

he is quite clearly one of the greatest managers in the history of the game sometimes, you could be forgiven for thinking, almost in spite of himself. despite his achievements it is possible to give credit where it's due and to justly criticise where appropriate. life isn't black and white and most people who care to reflect abandon blind hero-worship as they reach a certain age and it dawns on them that no-one is above criticism. your hero, it becomes uncomfortably clear, has feet of clay.

for example, eric throwing away his hard-won artistic integrity by doing scouse-lauding adverts for money must have provoked some cognitive dissonance in a fair few reds. for reddles it was probably finding out giggsy was black.

ferguson had many characteristics that may have been both a fault and a virtue depending on the circumstances in which they arose. he is undoubtedly possessed of the huge ego necessary to be a leader of men. his stubborness meant that he wouldn't entertain the prospect of failure during the early years of rebuilding, but it also meant that he wouldnt readily admit mistakes even when apparent to even the most myopic of top reds (see Jim Leighton).

however, some of his failings were more egregious than others and have more far-reaching consequences. It cannot be forgotten that it was fergie's greed-fueled fall-out with the magniers that opened the door for the carpetbaggers that sit like a cancer in the heart of the club. nor can we ignore the thought that he was either disingenuous with his support for resistance while all the time engaged in behind the scenes machinations to cement his personal position at the club, or that he really was in fact opposed to the glazers but had his head turned by his love of money. we can discount the bizarre notion that he was fighting from within by his sustained vichy-like complicity with glazers.

His repeated assertions that the obviously detrimental and leeching regime were in fact "perfect owners" capture his worst shortcomings in a soundbite. the hypocrisy with his oft-professed socialist values writ as large as his name on the Big Stand (you know - the big one with his name on. faces north. opposite the south stand.).

and even as he worked a last managerial miracle in coaxing a sub-standard squad to a last championship in his quest to go out a winner, ego-driven short-termism allowed the squad to wither. and so he left a hollowed out and aging squad lacking quality in key areas to his successor - the man he personally recommended, in his own self-image no less.

My feelings in a verbose nutshell, forgiving the oxymoron. Talking of which, loads of great big words too. Excellent stuff Irkles. Standard setting in fact.

Should be the foreword to Fergies book.

Originally Posted by My Name is Keith

My feelings in a verbose nutshell, forgiving the oxymoron. Talking of which, loads of great big words too. Excellent stuff Irkles. Standard setting in fact.

Should be the foreword to Fergies book.

have you noticed his posts have started getting longer since FOTY?

it's not his personal blog imo.