jesse lingard.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster

N Powell is the one. FYI.

I quite like him too - poor tonight, though.

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

I quite like him too - poor tonight, though.

Awful

powell doesn't have a great touch.

it's one of the reasons he's always shooting.

I can see the comparisons with fat frank.

his dynamism alone (powell's dynamism, not fat frank) would have improved us this year year but that's only because we have statues in midfield.

he's not good enough.

the first thing our scouts should look for is top quality ball control.

why is it such an afterthought?

Originally Posted by moyescaust

powell doesn't have a great touch.

it's one of the reasons he's always shooting.

I can see the comparisons with fat frank.

his dynamism alone (powell's dynamism, not fat frank) would have improved us this year year but that's only because we have statues in midfield.

he's not good enough.

the first thing our scouts should look for is top quality ball control.

why is it such an afterthought?

young looks like a @#%&! even when you can't see his eyes.

He's £#%&!ing shit, like powell.

If they were any good they'd be where Januzaj is.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

He's £#%&!ing shit, like powell.

If they were any good they'd be where Januzaj is.

G2C your taking your usual optimistic positive viewpoint on this

Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust

G2C your taking your usual optimistic positive viewpoint on this

There is no "optimism" with regard to whether a player is good enough or not. They either are, or they aren't.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

There is no "optimism" with regard to whether a player is good enough or not. They either are, or they aren't.

Young players are hard to gauge. I never saw the Ronaldo of 18 becoming the Ronaldo that exists today.

Powell is too slow to be a top level player...no better than Gibson imo.

Don't think I've ever seen Lingard play so I've got no idea.

Januzaj could still go either way too, raw talent is there but delivers very little in terms of end product. He's got time on his side though and will be a different player in a year or two. This season will have done him good though, hopefully he'll have a similar no of minutes on the pitch next year.

Originally Posted by carlosartorial

Young players are hard to gauge. I never saw the Ronaldo of 18 becoming the Ronaldo that exists today.

Powell is too slow to be a top level player...no better than Gibson imo.

Don't think I've ever seen Lingard play so I've got no idea.

Januzaj could still go either way too, raw talent is there but delivers very little in terms of end product. He's got time on his side though and will be a different player in a year or two. This season will have done him good though, hopefully he'll have a similar no of minutes on the pitch next year.

We spent £12m on ronaldo when he was 18 and he was in our first team with the no.7

Was he the Ronaldo of today? No. Could you see he was an exceptional talent? Of course.

He sure as £#%&! wouldn't have been on loan at £#%&!ing Birmingham or Wigan that's for sure.

They either are or they aren't. It's as simple as that.

Originally Posted by carlosartorial

Young players are hard to gauge. I never saw the Ronaldo of 18 becoming the Ronaldo that exists today.

Powell is too slow to be a top level player...no better than Gibson imo.

Don't think I've ever seen Lingard play so I've got no idea.

Januzaj could still go either way too, raw talent is there but delivers very little in terms of end product. He's got time on his side though and will be a different player in a year or two. This season will have done him good though, hopefully he'll have a similar no of minutes on the pitch next year.

Ah the old end product saying. You were one of the many #@&%!s who said the same about Ronaldo in his first couple of seasons, weren't you?

Originally Posted by dragflick

Ah the old end product saying. You were one of the many #@&%!s who said the same about Ronaldo in his first couple of seasons, weren't you?

Seems like draggers has got sunburn and is taking it out on all around him

Originally Posted by Sparky***

We spent £12m on ronaldo when he was 18 and he was in our first team with the no.7

Was he the Ronaldo of today? No. Could you see he was an exceptional talent? Of course.

He sure as £#%&! wouldn't have been on loan at £#%&!ing Birmingham or Wigan that's for sure.

They either are or they aren't. It's as simple as that.

Beckham was at Preston aged 20.

It isn't that clear cut. Januzaj is an exceptional 'talent' too. There again, so was Anderson at 18. No guarantee they will continue to bloom and be the finished article at 24.

Beckham only started to properly show at 21, Ben Thornley used to regularly overshadow him at 18-20.

Players develop at different rates.

Originally Posted by dragflick

Ah the old end product saying. You were one of the many #@&%!s who said the same about Ronaldo in his first couple of seasons, weren't you?

Shut up you £#%&!ing #@&%!.

Originally Posted by silv

Seems like draggers has got sunburn and is taking it out on all around him

Absolutely £#%&!ed pal.

Originally Posted by carlosartorial

Shut up you £#%&!ing #@&%!.

Fair point well made... That's a yes then. Apology to Ronnie and myself accepted.

Originally Posted by carlosartorial

Beckham was at Preston aged 20.

It isn't that clear cut. Januzaj is an exceptional 'talent' too. There again, so was Anderson at 18. No guarantee they will continue to bloom and be the finished article at 24.

Beckham only started to properly show at 21, Ben Thornley used to regularly overshadow him at 18-20.

Players develop at different rates.

Yes it is. I'm always right about these things. Always. I may not be right about other stuff, but when I say a player is shit you can be damn sure they'll turn out pretty shit.

If a player doesn't look good enough when they're in their late teens/early 20's then they never will be. £#%&! them off and buy someone good enough and stop wasting our time.

Desire, Luck, timing, maturity and skillset.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Yes it is. I'm always right about these things. Always. I may not be right about other stuff, but when I say a player is shit you can be damn sure they'll turn out pretty shit.

If a player doesn't look good enough when they're in their late teens/early 20's then they never will be. £#%&! them off and buy someone good enough and stop wasting our time.

Fair enough.

I couldn't really give a £#%&! tbh. Night mate x

Originally Posted by DakotaFredsBigShoe

Jay don't listen, moyes has driven him mad. I'm having issues with my winter duvet, what tog should I be using?

Definitely a dorma duck feathered one. Its just down to you what tog you want id go for about tog 6/7