James McClean - this Irish fella refusing to wear a poppy

Originally Posted by puressence

google it ..its easy to find

It's not an IRA badge you belm. Just because someone has drawn an arrow pointing to a badge and written IRA badge on a rangers forum does not make it one

Originally Posted by Jez Quigley

It's a free country - get off his back will you ffs. He says he isn't anti-British so that's fine by me.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ear-poppy.html

http://www.givemesport.com/520096-ja...-poppy-refusal

tend to agree.

I've worn a poppy for years, long before all the hoopla surrounded it. It's become an extension of the England flags on cars, Children in Need, Movember and over the top Christmas celebrations mindset and is really £#%&!ing me off.

Furthermore, I really can't be doing with this insecure and constant need to crave universal acceptance from everyone. The lad has a valid reason not to wear one.. fine. I choose to wear one fine..

Now kindly £#%&! off and stop telling us what to do.

Originally Posted by Big Norm

The poppy appeal is a charity.

I do not recall people getting themselves into such a state about comic relief.

He's refusing to wear a spotty bandage around his head while playing next friday?!? The absolute scumbag

Originally Posted by doudou

True but the Celts were driven out of the area we now called England by proto-German speakers and the "English" have spoken a version of German for the past 1400 years. McClean and his forebears have therefore been made to speak a dialect of low German by an army under the nominal command of a member of the Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha family.

... and a direct descendant of Brian Boru.

Celts weren't driven out, they were assimilated. The natives carried on living where they always had, the Angles and so on simply became feudal lords.

They weren't 'made to' speak anything (unless you count that minor issue of translating the Bible). There's never been a forced language policy in the British Isles like the French had Vergonha - most well known is probably the Welsh Not and that was small scale (and Welsh-led). The phenomenon of nationalism is from the 19th century, I do wish people would stop applying it to earlier times.

chose a great tune as well

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/reg...song-1-4825979

Originally Posted by Big Norm

The poppy appeal is a charity.

I do not recall people getting themselves into such a state about comic relief.

I think the difference is the social pressure to conform by wearing one - the day some @#%&! tells me I should be wearing a red nose I'm really going to lose it.

Originally Posted by no fun

I get even more angry about comic relief tbh

But that's mainly cos of Lenny Henry & Dawn French tbh.

Originally Posted by elephantstone

chose a great tune as well

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/reg...song-1-4825979

Heard that he plays " my little armalite " in the changing room as well

one of my faves. Do you think he could do a job for us?

Originally Posted by elephantstone

one of my faves. Do you think he could do a job for us?

Not good enough, but I'd sign him just to see pures reaction

Originally Posted by no fun

pure old chap, i have been to the place where mcclean grew up many times, and i have witnessed with my own eyes british soldiers terrorising local people. For him to support the organisation which fought back is perfectly understandable

ive been to iraq doesnt make me the taliban

Originally Posted by puressence

ive been to iraq doesnt make me the taliban

when did you go to Iraq?

I am sure we would have all heard about it.

Originally Posted by puressence

ive been to iraq doesnt make me the taliban

Wtf ???

Ok let's try again

Imagine the good people of Middleton were holding a peaceful demonstration to protest against, for example, the increase in council tax levied by Rochdale council


The army charges in and murders 12 marchers, including children

Would you, in future years, wear an emblem that celebrates that army ?

Originally Posted by puressence

ive been to iraq doesnt make me the taliban

Well yeah, in the same way travelling to Cambodia doesn't make you Vietcong

He has every right not to wear one. He shouldn't have to explain himself.

Just as I have the right to not join in with st patrick's day or 'de craic'.

Originally Posted by sparky***

he has every right not to wear one. He shouldn't have to explain himself.

Just as i have the right to not join in with st patrick's day or 'de craic'.

have u ever been to dublin

Originally Posted by puressence

have u ever been to dublin

My mum is from Dublin.

So unfortunately, yes.

Originally Posted by no fun

wtf ???

Ok let's try again

imagine the good people of middleton were holding a peaceful demonstration to protest against, for example, the increase in council tax levied by rochdale council


the army charges in and murders 12 marchers, including children

would you, in future years, wear an emblem that celebrates that army ?

like the peterloo massacre then

Originally Posted by puressence

like the peterloo massacre then

No pal, that happened in manchester

Originally Posted by sparky***

my mum is from dublin.

So unfortunately, yes.

sorted pal