England of 1998 would have won this World Cup

Originally Posted by Ethers

Too slow imo, would get absolutely murdered on the counter here.

That's also a very good point

You'd have to have Anderton and McManaman in there I suppose :shakehead:

No, they wouldn't - they'd £#%&! it up.

3 best tournaments I have seen England play were '90, '96 and '98. What do they all have in common? Three CB's.

Agree with whoever it was that said the '96 team was better than the '98 team. Think the main reason for that was Shearer and Sheringham as a partnership, by '98 Sheringham was no longer first choice and there was not a proper partnership up front. Owen came into during that tournament but he and Shearer were not exactly a partnership. Think the other thing Hoddle and Venables got wrong was their choice of wing backs, too many times McManaman or Anderton were used, they were never wing backs.

England were lucky in 1990, and the general standard of football there (especially in the latter stages) was dire.

1996, 1998 *and* 2002 were more impressive showings. IMO.

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

England were lucky in 1990, and the general standard of football there (especially in the latter stages) was dire.

1996, 1998 *and* 2002 were more impressive showings. IMO.

If Giggs played for england they would have beaten Brazil imho

Originally Posted by Harri Jaffa

If Giggs played for england they would have beaten Brazil imho

What an odd point to make.

England were £#%&!ed in the Brazil game. Playing against 10 men and they didn't have a clue what to do.

1996 was the best team, bit more luck and they'd have won Euro 96. That 4-1 against Holland is up there with the top 10 best ever England performances.

Originally Posted by Ginners

The euro 96 team was better

had tons of favourable ref decisions to get as far as they did. against spain especially. still couldn't even do as well as denmark or greece.

Originally Posted by Harri Jaffa

If Giggs played for england they would have beaten Brazil imho

Not if Ballack played for Brazil.

Originally Posted by Ethers

What an odd point to make.

fwiw i've thought it loads of times, but yes you are right, it is odd

Beckham, Scholes, Butt, Giggs

Top £#%&!ing midfield that #obviouspoint

Originally Posted by Grimson

Not if Ballack played for Brazil.

Oh come on, Giggs nearly kind of did or something ffs...

Originally Posted by Grimson

Not if Ballack played for Brazil.

Originally Posted by Grimson

Not if Ballack played for Brazil.

Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust

Not sure how many more tournament failures it will take for the England national team to realise they need to play a formation that has 3 in centre midfield

how long did it take moyes at united?


england would have won in 86 if robson had stayed fit.

Originally Posted by Mr Castro

England were £#%&!ed in the Brazil game. Playing against 10 men and they didn't have a clue what to do.

1996 was the best team, bit more luck and they'd have won Euro 96. That 4-1 against Holland is up there with the top 10 best ever England performances.

Best of my lifetime, IMHO. The 5-1 in Germany was a bit more flukey (though obviously still pretty impressive )

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

England were lucky in 1990, and the general standard of football there (especially in the latter stages) was dire.

1996, 1998 *and* 2002 were more impressive showings. IMO.

bobby robson's england was technically better than el tel's, imo. but a bit dull. never hurt italy though. that's one of our biggest problems, and is mainly down to the press; not good enough to just win and build a foundation for success we have to be playing like 70's brasil within 6 months.

Originally Posted by Harri Jaffa

Oh come on, Giggs nearly kind of did or something ffs...

If my auntie had ballacks...

Apart from the fact that England weren't good enough to win France 98, if they'd beaten the Argies, they'd have played Holland in the QF, Brazil in the semi and France in the final.

Not bloody likely.

Originally Posted by HotChip

If Scholes could play in a hat, maybe

Awful thread btw