OFFICIAL Match Thread: Manchester United v Chelsea

Originally Posted by Baron

*more bolding*

Who's fault is that ?!

Re-read what I wrote, he's a no.9 & should be played as such. Fergie played him as a forward & he scored more than van persie did last year, if you put him in a side with a creative midfielder & a winger worth their salt he'd play further forward & would be excellent. But he's an average, hard working, no.10 & he has been for years, not just this period of being a massively slapped arse.

He wants to join Chelsea because he knows he'll be played up front, every game, & obviously will get a pay rise out of the Russian.

He played two games the week before by the way.

Originally Posted by Baron

*more bolding*

Who's fault is that ?!

Re-read what I wrote, he's a no.9 & should be played as such. Fergie played him as a forward & he scored more than van persie did last year, if you put him in a side with a creative midfielder & a winger worth their salt he'd play further forward & would be excellent. But he's an average, hard working, no.10 & he has been for years, not just this period of being a massively slapped arse.

He wants to join Chelsea because he knows he'll be played up front, every game, & obviously will get a pay rise out of the Russian.

Whose.

Originally Posted by andyroo

Whose.

I'm playing that like Broad, ignoring it & moving on.

Originally Posted by Jez Quigley

BTW - I see the Daily Mirror picked up on my comment about Rooney barely passing to RVP.
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that's what i've been alluding to as well. the question would be whether he is 'clever' (snide) enough to only £#%&! up the bits where RvP might have scored?

Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust

If we continue to play with Rooney as a number 10 like we did last season then we will continue play predictable football

this. much of the time, anyhoo.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

this. much of the time, anyhoo.

How can you bang Valencia's drum so forcefully & then complain about Rooney holding us back with his predictable Football?
I thought you were a 4-4-2 man??
Nothing wrong with United playing 2 out & out centre fowards...as long as you've got the wide men & central midfield to deal with it.

Moyes said himself that he asked Rooney to drop in a lot last night because Chelsea started with about 30 central midfielders.
Cleverley & Carrick did pretty well last night but neither of them get beyond the strikers or bring the ball forward & beat a man.

Originally Posted by MJ Ramone

How can you bang Valencia's drum so forcefully & then complain about Rooney holding us back with his predictable Football?
I thought you were a 4-4-2 man??
Nothing wrong with United playing 2 out & out centre fowards...as long as you've got the wide men & central midfield to deal with it.

Moyes said himself that he asked Rooney to drop in a lot last night because Chelsea started with about 30 central midfielders.
Cleverley & Carrick did pretty well last night but neither of them get beyond the strikers or bring the ball forward & beat a man.

i don't blame individuals. rooney isn't very good at 10. it's not his fault they keep playing him there.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

i don't blame individuals. rooney isn't very good at 10. it's not his fault they keep playing him there.

Fair enough. I don't blame individuals either, but my point is I'd like to see him in that role with a couple of in form wingers & a central midfielder who can beat an opponent & get advanced of the strikers at times.
No reason why Van Persie & Rooney can't take it in turns to drop into the hole. They're both very good footballers.

Anyway, there's a chance these Rooney debates will be all done & dusted this time next week. Mourinho played his final hand last night in the saga by putting the ball in Rooneys court. It'll be interesting to see what Rooney does between now & next Monday. I still think it's 50/50 whether he stays or goes.

Originally Posted by MJ Ramone

Fair enough. I don't blame individuals either, but my point is I'd like to see him in that role with a couple of in form wingers & a central midfielder who can beat an opponent & get advanced of the strikers at times.
No reason why Van Persie & Rooney can't take it in turns to drop into the hole. They're both very good footballers.

Anyway, there's a chance these Rooney debates will be all done & dusted this time next week. Mourinho played his final hand last night in the saga by putting the ball in Rooneys court. It'll be interesting to see what Rooney does between now & next Monday. I still think it's 50/50 whether he stays or goes.

You said he'd definitely be going last week.

Originally Posted by atticusgrinch

You said he'd definitely be going last week.

True, but that was before he played the full game last night & now Sky are running with a 'Sky Sources say he isn't going to ask to leave' yellow ticker exlusive - although tbf that makes it far more likely he will go..
Who knows.

Originally Posted by MJ Ramone

True, but that was before he played the full game last night & now Sky are running with a 'Sky Sources say he isn't going to ask to leave' yellow ticker exlusive - although tbf that makes it far more likely he will go..
Who knows.

God.

Originally Posted by Zorg

In other news, Torres is hilariously shit.

Had about five touches and every single one reminded me of Jason Lee.

Genuinely amazing how he has gone totally to ratshit. The bloke who terrorised us just 4 years ago might as well be a different player

Originally Posted by MJ Ramone

True, but that was before he played the full game last night & now Sky are running with a 'Sky Sources say he isn't going to ask to leave' yellow ticker exlusive - although tbf that makes it far more likely he will go..
Who knows.

so do you still want him to be £#%&!ed off then or not?

can't believe the way you've laid into him this summer tbh


i always said he would, could and should stay

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Genuinely amazing how he has gone totally to ratshit. The bloke who terrorised us just 4 years ago might as well be a different player

vidic misjudged one £#%&!ing hoof up the pitch ffs

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

vidic misjudged one £#%&!ing hoof up the pitch ffs

They still tonked us 4-1 at OT, pol. Still hurts

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Genuinely amazing how he has gone totally to ratshit. The bloke who terrorised us just 4 years ago might as well be a different player

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

vidic misjudged one £#%&!ing hoof up the pitch ffs

There's some truth in that of course, but he was still a class player before. I don't recall a bigger fall from grace ever tbh. Fifty million pounds and he can barely control a £#%&!ing football

That bit when he stumbled over it and Rio took it away from him, you could almost hear the sad trombone.

That miss at OT two years ago don't think I've a whole stadium laughing like it

Originally Posted by andyroo

That miss at OT two years ago don't think I've a whole stadium laughing like it

What a great picture