Expunging of shit@#%&!s…

Marc Jurado looks like being sold, quiet on the Fernandez front.

Suddenly talking up Hannibal’s prospects for the season

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

Of course we’ve failed to get rid of the two who would have commanded the biggest fee.

We should have taken the £60m off West Ham for both, give Maguire his £10m. We’d have enough to Amrabat and £30-35m centre half.

You’d think, not sure it works like that as the loss on Maguire would be too much and I’m assuming they have McT’s book value way higher, so that would’ve been a loss in accounting terms too. If Maguire’s amortised value is £35m, selling him for £30m and paying him off as well is a huge loss which would add to the FFP conundrum.

The Scottish Player must have an asset value in the accounts, if they sell him for less than that value that would probably count as a loss too.

Shenanigans.

The Scottish Player won't have any asset value because he came from the youth system and there was no fee involved. An arbitrary figure can't be just parachuted into the accounts to make the balance sheet look better. Any fee received is pure profit so if its true that a fee of 30m was turned down someone should probably be fired.
Selling academy players is the holy grail for ffp and is exactly why city and chelsea Invest so much Into player farming .

Originally Posted by dunk

Marc Jurado looks like being sold, quiet on the Fernandez front.

Suddenly talking up Hannibal’s prospects for the season



You’d think, not sure it works like that as the loss on Maguire would be too much and I’m assuming they have McT’s book value way higher, so that would’ve been a loss in accounting terms too. If Maguire’s amortised value is £35m, selling him for £30m and paying him off as well is a huge loss which would add to the FFP conundrum.

The Scottish Player must have an asset value in the accounts, if they sell him for less than that value that would probably count as a loss too.

Shenanigans.

you don't really know what you are talking about, do you?

Originally Posted by pedr0

you don't really know what you are talking about, do you?

It’s an attempt to come up with an explanation for their rejection of bids pal. It’s got more sense in it than any reason they could give.

It’s the only thing that makes sense and fits with the ludicrous contract extensions and constant reluctance to sell players.

Originally Posted by dunk

It’s an attempt to come up with an explanation for their rejection of bids pal. It’s got more sense in it than any reason they could give.

It’s the only thing that makes sense and fits with the ludicrous contract extensions and constant reluctance to sell players.

we accepted a bid for Maguire though..the only reason he's still here is that he refused to go. nothing to do with everyone's new favourite word "amortisation"

Originally Posted by pedr0

we accepted a bid for Maguire though..the only reason he's still here is that he refused to go. nothing to do with everyone's new favourite word "amortisation"

We accepted a bid but wouldn’t pay off his contract. They were attempting to write off however much his contract is worth, he wouldn’t have it, they couldn’t pay him off and still balance the books, even if they were only paying off a portion of his contract not the full whack.

Henderson. Official status: turd flushed.

Cap wearing @#%&!.

"He's better than De Gea..."

Originally Posted by windy waffles

Cap wearing @#%&!.

"He's better than De Gea..."

Well… he’s got a club..

Originally Posted by dunk

Well… he’s got a club..

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CwkU_Zkodnl/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=a5520658-5dc7-4cb4-9703-33cbcb475e6d

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CwkU_...3-33cbcb475e6d

Actually feel a bit sorry for him now

Originally Posted by windy waffles

Cap wearing @#%&!.

"He's better than De Gea..."

Originally Posted by dunk

Well… he’s got a club..

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CwkU_...3-33cbcb475e6d

Oh suddenly found his way out of the six yard box to collect crosses?

£#%&! off

Originally Posted by Hank Scorpio

The Scottish Player won't have any asset value because he came from the youth system and there was no fee involved. An arbitrary figure can't be just parachuted into the accounts to make the balance sheet look better.

Wrong. Accounts should always represent the market value of assets. Revaluation is common to improve the balance sheet. The increase in value on the balance sheet is matched by an upward adjustment in the profit and loss account in the year the revaluation takes place. You are right in that the figure shouldn’t be arbitrary, but there should/will be a figure. What a fair figure is for The Scottish Player is of course a matter of opinion.

I’m glad we’ve made a call on a lot of these youngsters. We’ve led too many of them on down the years and just kept them on in hope they come good. Let them go, stick buy back clauses in their contracts.

The lack of sales of senior players is hugely disappointing and clearly something they didn’t account for.

Elanga, Henderson and Fred didn’t go for anywhere near as much as they’d hoped and them bringing in less than £50m between them is shocking, when you consider Cole Porter is off to Chelsea for £40m.

The Scottish Player was a tough one. I imagine we were were happy to keep him and would only sell for a proper fee. He has some value to us.

The absolute stinkers though are Maguire and Martial.

Maguire’s lack of ambition is ridiculous. Stripped of the captaincy, out of the team, then behind Lindelof in the pecking order. Take the £#%&!ing hint, mate. He’s become a laughing stock and looks a bag of nerves whenever he features. He should have been first out of the door and rebuilding his career at West Ham. It’s abundantly clear he has no future here, yet we’ll see him stinking the place out soon enough.

But we’re reaping what we sow with some of the outrageous contracts we’ve dished out. The guy has an ego, but we’ve played a part in that by giving him a bumper deal and making him club captain for doing little more than getting Hull relegated.

And then there’s that malingering waster, Antony Martial.

Eight years he’s been here. Eight £#%&!ing years. Flashes of talent dotted around long spells of half arsed meandering round and long spells on the treatment table. It’s absolutely disgusting that we’re going into Sunday’s game away to Arsenal, with a very strong chance he starts as our main forward.

And not a whiff of him leaving, because no £#%&!er wants him and he’s another who’s been rewarded with a big deal for doing nothing. Sevilla had him and gave him straight back. A year on and he’s STILL £#%&!ing here.

Remember when we used to sell the likes of Stam, Hughes, RVN when everyone thought they had good years in them?

We had a manager and support above them with huge ambition and standards.

City do it now. Mahrez and Gundogen - two of their best players of recent years - gone! We’re moving on. Ruthless ambition.

And I’m sure it’s not for a lack of trying on ETH’s part. We’ve seen what he thinks of Ronaldo, DDG, Fred and Maguire. If he had his way, we’d have that Kim or someone like him in there. He spoke in the summer about a striker who was a ‘guarantee’. Where is he? Greenwood gone, Weghort gone, Ronaldo gone and ONE striker to fill the gap.

We’ll probably pick up Amrabat today and the signings we’ve made are decent, but we really are paying for how horrendously we’ve been run in recent years.

As ever, nothing really changes until those parasites are gone.

The club became a desperate mess and floundered about with managers and players, and ETH now has to clear it up. He's done a decent job moving players on so far but it's inevitably a slow process.

Hopefully, we will get to where we were that players want to come to United because of its status and prestige, not because it's a cash cow and an easy ride. It does feel we've turned a corner with that.

If we had got rid of Maguire and Martial, brought in another striker and centre back, and not suffered the key injuries it would have looked like a decent window.

He's doing well with the constraints he has.....

Less leaks now...

Originally Posted by redhegemony

The club became a desperate mess and floundered about with managers and players, and ETH now has to clear it up. He's done a decent job moving players on so far but it's inevitably a slow process.

Hopefully, we will get to where we were that players want to come to United because of its status and prestige, not because it's a cash cow and an easy ride. It does feel we've turned a corner with that.

If we had got rid of Maguire and Martial, brought in another striker and centre back, and not suffered the key injuries it would have looked like a decent window.

I don’t blame ETH at all*. On the contrary, you can see him attempting to bring the required standard. It’s just very difficult with the hole we’ve dug for ourselves. The lack of clarity and communication re the ownership is another big cloud.

*Mount is a highly dubious choice that he needs to get right though. Benefit of the doubt though.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

I’m glad we’ve made a call on a lot of these youngsters. We’ve led too many of them on down the years and just kept them on in hope they come good. Let them go, stick buy back clauses in their contracts.

The lack of sales of senior players is hugely disappointing and clearly something they didn’t account for.

Elanga, Henderson and Fred didn’t go for anywhere near as much as they’d hoped and them bringing in less than £50m between them is shocking, when you consider Cole Porter is off to Chelsea for £40m.

The Scottish Player was a tough one. I imagine we were were happy to keep him and would only sell for a proper fee. He has some value to us.

The absolute stinkers though are Maguire and Martial.

Maguire’s lack of ambition is ridiculous. Stripped of the captaincy, out of the team, then behind Lindelof in the pecking order. Take the £#%&!ing hint, mate. He’s become a laughing stock and looks a bag of nerves whenever he features. He should have been first out of the door and rebuilding his career at West Ham. It’s abundantly clear he has no future here, yet we’ll see him stinking the place out soon enough.

But we’re reaping what we sow with some of the outrageous contracts we’ve dished out. The guy has an ego, but we’ve played a part in that by giving him a bumper deal and making him club captain for doing little more than getting Hull relegated.

And then there’s that malingering waster, Antony Martial.

Eight years he’s been here. Eight £#%&!ing years. Flashes of talent dotted around long spells of half arsed meandering round and long spells on the treatment table. It’s absolutely disgusting that we’re going into Sunday’s game away to Arsenal, with a very strong chance he starts as our main forward.

And not a whiff of him leaving, because no £#%&!er wants him and he’s another who’s been rewarded with a big deal for doing nothing. Sevilla had him and gave him straight back. A year on and he’s STILL £#%&!ing here.

Remember when we used to sell the likes of Stam, Hughes, RVN when everyone thought they had good years in them?

We had a manager and support above them with huge ambition and standards.

City do it now. Mahrez and Gundogen - two of their best players of recent years - gone! We’re moving on. Ruthless ambition.

And I’m sure it’s not for a lack of trying on ETH’s part. We’ve seen what he thinks of Ronaldo, DDG, Fred and Maguire. If he had his way, we’d have that Kim or someone like him in there. He spoke in the summer about a striker who was a ‘guarantee’. Where is he? Greenwood gone, Weghort gone, Ronaldo gone and ONE striker to fill the gap.

We’ll probably pick up Amrabat today and the signings we’ve made are decent, but we really are paying for how horrendously we’ve been run in recent years.

As ever, nothing really changes until those parasites are gone.

Ever heard of paragraphs, pal?

Originally Posted by windy waffles

Ever heard of paragraphs, pal?

There’s lot of them there mate. Have you?